Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[demkicker]

I seeriously doubt if the Twitty's have to worry about being run out of Aruba. The Aruban big shots have blown this investigation enough already. They won't be stupid enough to run Natalee's parents off.

[hershey]

The Twitty's hired an Aruban lawyer, too. So they've been helped, if that's the word, through this maze of Aruban law.

[the Deejay]

Yes. Items should be
showing up to give
clues to her
whereabouts.

[TexKat]

Jug was asking for the US to pressure the Dutch govt. for help. If they've contacted Sen. Shelby

The US contacted the Aruban government contacts almost from day 1.

[maggief]

On second though = On second thought

[Dolphy]

I am not taken up for the VDS, but none of that proves that anyone is guilty. It could be that PVDS and Joran was on the defensive due to this group of people showing up at their house at 3 a.m. in the morning.

I thought she was referring to the visit she and Greta made to their house.

[maggief]

I agree.

[hershey]

I heard Jug say something about his standing by while that confrontation took place between PVDS and three of J's friends, and that PVDS had told J to say nothing. Someone else said they'd talked in Aruban? Dutch? So Jug probably didn't know everything that was said, and several cops witnessed this, too. The question being, did Aruban LE question their own cops about what was said that night and who said it.

[Jrabbit]

Watching the search guy talking to Greta, I got the most horrible feeling.....At the end, he seemed to break down. Talking about searching the "lake" close to J's home. The dogs alerted to something and they put all the divers in....but says it isn't cleared yet. I feel he thinks Natalee is in there....

[Malichi]

I agree with the hot librarian comment about Marianne Croes you made the other day. I see what you're talking about.
TAW

[hershey]

You're probably right. Being forced to leave Aruba would really be the last straw.

[stlnative]

good points...!

Again it sounds like the Kalpoe brothers were at home to stay and maybe when Joran called at 2:30am, they asked him to try and find another ride home and to call or text back if he did find another ride or they told him he would have to wait and that they couldn't be there any sooner than 3:15 am (maybe after a show on TV ended - who knows)

[pnz1]

I think he knows something is in that body of water, too.

[hershey]

That's what I meant. Sorry it wasn't clear.

[RememberTheAlamo]

I wonder if he attended one of those alleged Aruban Underground parties? The only one I am aware of, is the guy(found) who lost his head via an unknown sharp instrument.

Can someone tell me the correct spelling of this guy's name so I can do a search? I searched Lexis when it happened but either the spelling was wrong or it just wasn't there. Now I can't find the name at all.

[TexKat]

I thought she was referring to the visit she and Greta made to their house.

I'm referring to the entire interview of Beth and Jug by Greta.

It could be that the VDS's became hostile from day one after being approached by the Twittys and friends and considered them as those crazy cowboy Americans.

[stlnative]

Oh... just pack your bags and move to Aruba! :-P

[onyx]

He also mentioned that it's near the VDS residence.

[hershey]

Yes, the search guy seemed tired and drained and depressed. Well, that comes with what they do. He said he was one of the lucky ones, since they found his daughter and he had the chance to say goodbye. Amazing that these volunteers can do because their hearts have to break every time. But it's doing what has to be done, helping families missing loved ones, etc.. God bless them and hope they find some trace of N.

[elli1]

It could be that PVDS and Joran was on the defensive due to this group of people showing up at their house at 3 a.m. in the morning.

I've never heard exactly how many people were in that 'group' but it struck me as an odd & not too smart way to approach the situation. Of course, any parent is going to very protective of their kid in a situation like that.