Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[Dolphy]

Geraldo said Today we are now told that PVDS "gave" Joran a ride home at 4:00am (this was after Joran text messaged Deepak at 3:15am)

I am not able to follow this as closely as some so forgive me but didn't Natalee's mom have this (did he pick his son up) as one of the open questions to PVDS? I thought she indicated that he didn't clearly answer questions about getting home or waking him up for school.

[the Deejay]

Apparently, FNC likes something
about Geraldo.

[stlnative]

he did not say he saw them - he said they were "told" today about the 4am pick-up by PVDS of JVDS.

[TexKat]

Watching Geraldo on Hanity & Colmes now. Geraldo is ripping Aruba for not letting their 200 Marines help in the search for Natalee.

And the guy (Patrick Murphy)with Geraldo also stated that the situation with the Dutch Marines was going through the chain of command, which is in progress. Murphy stated that that decison comes from the higher ups.

Geraldo then stands there swaying in the wind.

[the Deejay]

I was dumbstruck when I
heard Geraldo giving
those cell phone
records out.

4 AM??? whoa...

[presently no screen name]

I wonder if geraldo is aware we never heard that before.

[demkicker]

Did you see Sean's interview of Geraldo tonight? Sean specifically asked Geraldo if the investigators had cell phone records & locations of when Joran called his father. Geraldo launched into a convaluted non-answer.

[the Deejay]

Yeah, I was watching Geraldo
on H & C.

I see Colmes is home....from
Aruba...lol

[hershey]

Hi, J, you're right about the black and tan, and dark coats in general. My gang lounged in luxury while I toiled at work. Two fans and an AC in the bedroom. Talked to the breeder this am, and he said he was letting his three out early in the am, and that was it. Longhaired guys were panting like crazy, even with the fans and (creaky) AC. The shorthaired pup doesn't seem fazed, lucky boy. Here it is, 9:30, and it's still 76 degrees. We're expecting a couple more days of this heat before it cools off, and thunderstorms again tomorrow. Three people were hit yesterday in New England, nobody badly hurt, though, thank goodness.

[stlnative]

he (Geraldo) may have learned this from David Kock, he was the one talking about the cell phone records a lot in the last few days. David Kock is attorney for one of the Kalpoe brothers.

I am not going to critize Geraldo as he is being pretty calm during the H&C's show.

[johnb838]

Geraldo (Drawing in the dirt): "I'm with the 101st Airborne Division, XXX Brigade, XXrd Battalion. Here's Baghdad, Here's Nasariyah. We're Here."

Unit Commander: "Shut that f*ckin' camera off! Geraldo, you're outta here!"

[hershey]

So what are we to think about the difference in times here? PVDS saying he gave J a ride home at four, yet J text messaging Deepak that he'd made it home at 3:15???

[TexKat]

Let's wait and see if we hear more about this PVDS pick-up and drive home of JVDS.

The handledbar moustache one stated that they now have the phone records.

[the Deejay]

I wonder if geraldo is aware we never heard that before.

I don't think geraldo knows about "us." Do you?

OTFLOL.....methinks I'm getting giddy. Been at this too long. Almost 4 weeks.......

[BunnySlippers]

Yes. Greta knows what she's doing.

You bet! I'm sure CNN is crying its eyes out over losing the top rated cable draw. :)

[presently no screen name]

the audience, the viewers, the public and YES "US" LOL


I'm too tired to be giddy. :)

[BunnySlippers]

Did you see Sean's interview of Geraldo tonight? Sean specifically asked Geraldo if the investigators had cell phone records & locations of when Joran called his father. Geraldo launched into a convaluted non-answer.

Did you catch the shot of him snorkeling at the end? Snorkeling for Natalee? A bit odd!

[hershey]

(Sighing, and laughing), you had to remind us of one of G's golden moments.

[demkicker]

Oh gosh, now Sean has Harris Faulkner on - She's the bugg eyed gal that makes it almost impossible to hear what she's saying because of the distraction of her eyes!

She's explaining away Croes excuse for lying to authorities to protect his friends, blah, blah, blah. Says he's friends with Deepak, but his friendship was not worth the lie. Croes mother is up next, but grosses me out. She hasn't seen her son in over a year, but had to have her drama queen tear jerking camera time yesterday in front of the courthouse. And tonight she's fully decked out with a make-up makeoveer enjoying her 15 minutes..... Gag.

[stlnative]

There are 2 stories out there...

One is...

Joran called Deepak at about 2:30 AM to tell him he is heading home from the beach then he text messages Deepak to say he made it home safely 45 minutes later (3:15 AM).

the other is

Joran called Deepak for a ride home at about 2:30, then Joran text messages Deepak at about 3:15am, to tell Deepak he found a ride home.

Now we have...

then now comes the 4:00am story (from Geraldo) that "they" were told today that PVDS picked up Joran and took him home at 4:00am that same morning.

If the brothers were at home, it sounds to me that they told him to forget it and that they were not going back out again just to pick him up or they told him to try and find another ride home and if he couldn't for him to call them back.