Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[presently no screen name]

I agree w/you. I took it as a rumor because one doesn't need to be near the site to report on it.

[txrangerette]

Did not see Scarborough with Frances Byrd; however, I read conflicting accounts by FReepers as to whether she meant she saw Natalee that night at the club, or whether she meant she saw her later back at the hotel. From my perspective, the questioning and answering seemed garbled on that point...not clear.

Just now I googled Frances Ellen Byrd and Natalee Holloway.

I got Greta's interview with her and a very few other references in newspapers and on blogs. Nowhere, repeat, nowhere, did anything arise about her supposedly seeing Natalee back at the hotel. You know, if it was clear that she had meant that, it would be huge news, simply huge. Yet, nothing.

Also, I read from a google source that she told somebody that she and other students had been interviewed by the FBI. Yet, the investigation has gone on evidence from the start that Natalee never made it back to the Holiday Inn from C&C.

Everyone, including her parents seem to be absolutely, incontrovertibly convinced of that.

[TexKat]

Did you read Greta's site today...

Thanks for the link brigette.

Most of those comments to Greta prove that there are some really shallow people out there.

[GarySpFc]

I just heard Geraldo say the Aruban government will not release the Dutch marines to help in the search for Natalee. Let me be frank, I believe this is government is little more than a whore organization.

[stlnative]

Are you watching Oreilly...?

[the Deejay]

Most of those comments to Greta prove that there are some really shallow people out there.

I especially like email from the broad in MT.

Gee, someone needs to take away her tv & computer.

[stlnative]

Yeah but I love O'reilly's comment when Geraldo told him that.

[txrangerette]

I am watching it, brigette.

[Pepper777]

"" * A gag order from the 'missed the plane' judge? * ""

I think you might be right. PVDS and his junior, have both been treated like they are above the law from the beginning. I don't understand why they needed a new judge. I thought the one handling the case, was supposed to be from another location, so why did they need a new judge?

I can't even begin to imagine the frustration Natalee's family must be feeling.

[stlnative]

O'Reilly cracked me up with the "invasion" comment

[TexKat]

Did not see Scarborough with Frances Byrd; however, I read conflicting accounts by FReepers as to whether she meant she saw Natalee that night at the club, or whether she meant she saw her later back at the hotel. From my perspective, the questioning and answering seemed garbled on that point...not clear.

'Scarborough Country' for June 2

SCARBOROUGH: Let me ask you, Frances Ellen, when is the last time you saw her?

BYRD: That night.

SCARBOROUGH: Yes, you saw her the night...

BYRD: I was with her that night.

SCARBOROUGH: You were with her that night.

BYRD: Yes. Yes.

SCARBOROUGH: All the friends went back to the hotel. And did you all see her go back to the hotel or not?

BYRD: I am just leaving it that we saw her there.

SCARBOROUGH: Saw her that night.

BYRD: Right.

YODER: Yes. Absolutely.

SCARBOROUGH: All right.

Well, Frances Ellen, thank you so much for being with us tonight.

Mark, thank you. And, of course, our prayers are going to be with you, with Natalee and with Natalee‘s family on this very important search.

BYRD: Thank you. Thank you so much.

[maggief]

Amazing ...

From Greta's site:

Greta,
You have done an outstanding job reporting from Aruba. The music coming from the dance floor is distracting. Last night during your report we heard: Staying Alive, Jailhouse Rock and Another One Bites the Dust. How can you maintain a straight face? Tell your producer to put you in a more suitable area.

[TexKat]

Are you watching Oreilly...?

I am now.

[GarySpFc]

I can't listen to him, I'm afraid I would have nightmares.

Imagine how we feel living in Kansas. It's nice to know we have evil like BTK and Joran walking around. What's worse is those who will defend these monsters.

[presently no screen name]

Things certainly changed when the new judge finally made his flight.


Suspects released, no new arrests, and silence from reporters.

[the Deejay]

I thought Jailhouse Rock was quite appropriate when I heard it that night.

[pnz1]

I don't get "I am just leaving with we saw her there". Hopefully she told the authorities more than that. What time, who she was with, her condition, etc.

[stlnative]

Some pictures I took of the TV when they were showing "A" quarry on O'Reilly. Not sure if this is the one they got the hit on with the dog.

Camera was move counter clock wise, so picture 1 shows the right side and picture 3 shows the left side

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/patchworkpiecer/quarry1.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/patchworkpiecer/quarry2.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/patchworkpiecer/quarry3.jpg

[TexKat]

I just heard Geraldo say the Aruban government will not release the Dutch marines to help in the search for Natalee.

Is there a more reliable source. Nothing that Geraldo has reported so far as been true.

[stlnative]

move = moving