Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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[stlnative]

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[Trust but Verify]

I have to ask, and I'm not just picking on you, brigette, but this case, even more so than others, has got people like yourself going 24/7 with theories, some of them based on pure conjecture. The question is, "Why?"

I can understand it to a point, but there is just a wild amount of speculation, theorizing, and just plain made-up stuff. Some people seem to do nothing else but hit these threads all day and night, bouncing theories off others. What good does it do? Nobody on FR is going to solve this crime, so what's the point?

[stlnative]

well I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I am guilty of thinking Joran did it all by himself. (hanging my head in shame) There is no reason for Joran to call the Kalpoes to tell them he made home unless joran had just been with the Kalpoes 40 minutes before. Yes it might be he was setting up an alibi, but we have 2 brothers that say they were at home but no one can back that up as of yet.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

In my opinion we are dealing with a psychopath.(Joran) I have dealt with perps like him in my career. Did you ask for a refund on that sixpack candy bar deal? NSNR

[stlnative]

I'm not just picking on you, brigette

I see it that you are pulling me out from the bunch (picking on me) - why not ask others on this thread this same question? - why just me? - I don't feel I or anyone else owes you an answer, so you are not going to get one from me! - Why are you on a "discussion thread" related to Natalee Holloway case? - It is not a breaking news thread about case, the thread is in Chat... so the theories and discussion about the case must interest you otherwise you would not be in here reading.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

I wanted to be a spy like in MAD TV. (Spy versus Spy.)Are you presently in a career? I think you would have been good at either one of those you mentioned.NSNR

[stlnative]

next time add ALL in the TO: box and maybe someone will answer your question, but I don't see why anyone owes you an answer.

[Trust but Verify]

I pop in to try to catch the latest news on the case and it takes a while to sort through what is news and what is conjecture. If it would make you feel better, I'll ask the rest of the 24/7 crowd, too.

[stlnative]

I'll tell you what... Freepmail me your email address and I will send you my Swiss bank account number and after you deposit $100,000.00 in to my swiss bank account I will then answer your question on FR for all to see.
:-P

[Trust but Verify]

I have to ask, and I'm not just picking on you, brigette, but this case, even more so than others, has got people like yourself going 24/7 with theories, some of them based on pure conjecture. The question is, "Why?"

I can understand it to a point, but there is just a wild amount of speculation, theorizing, and just plain made-up stuff. Some people seem to do nothing else but hit these threads all day and night, bouncing theories off others. What good does it do? Nobody on FR is going to solve this crime, so what's the point?

(Brigette: Just making good on my pledge. I don't expect an answer from you.)

[Trust but Verify]

Not necessary. I have your answer.

[monkeywrench]

There are plenty of other places to go to get the latest without having to wade through any conjecture, so I call BS. You want to read it. It's a mystery, and you're hooked.

[debg]

The judge ordered the father of Dutch teen Joran van der Sloot (search) and party boat deejay Steve Gregory Croes to be released Monday at 1 p.m. in the absence of sufficient evidence to continue holding them. link

[debg]

The judge ordered the father of Dutch teen Joran van der Sloot (search) and party boat deejay Steve Gregory Croes to be released Monday at 1 p.m. in the absence of sufficient evidence to continue holding them. link

[Gracey]

Thank you for your response and I hope there was some enlightenment on my perception of Natalee's friend(s) NSNR
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Yes, there is some enlightenment. However, let's wait and see what her "friends" say after this investigation is over. I'm sure they will be all over TV giving their views and opinions. I'm glad that most of them are abiding by the Holloway/Twitty wishes and staying away from the media.

[Rushmore Rocks]

I will try to answer, not that I need to...........but....

Most of us here are crime/mystery/trial buffs. We read mystery novels, watch Court TV, Fox News and get seriously hooked on tying to figure out who, what, where, when and why.

It's a really great mental excercise, perhaps one that you should try.........but we know it's not everyone's cup of tea.
And if it is not, don't join in.

We do have lives apart from these threads. Some collect stamps, some water their plants, some use FR as a hobby.

I don't understand people who like Brussells sprouts, but I wouldn't malign them for enjoying the nasty little things.

I thank God that we are not clones. What a boring world that would be!

[Gracey]

And lastly, what the HELL is Geraldo doing down there?
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Where's Greta????? She's cool .... Geraldo is a horses butt.

[Trust but Verify]

Thanks for the info.

[Trust but Verify]

Thanks for the non-snarky answer.

[Malichi]

Yes, it's outa the park! Very good answer!

[jacquej]

PVDS going to be let go!