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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: brigette

Perhaps to make it look like he walked home?!?


2,321 posted on 06/26/2005 12:00:07 PM PDT by maggief
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To: TexKat

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/patchworkpiecer/satish_joran_deepak_freddy.jpg

l to r
Satish - Joran - Deepak - Freddy (Freddy is in front of the guy who has the red shirt on in the back of the picture)

Notice the shirt from the picture in post 706 with the shirt in the picture above.

It is not your fault as which ever MSM captioned the photo in 706 did it wrong.


2,322 posted on 06/26/2005 12:02:42 PM PDT by stlnative (BUT DON'T ASK ME TO BACK THAT UP OR CONFIRM IT)
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To: brigette; Big Jake

Oh now I see what you are speaking of. Big Jake write ABC, that is their caption.


2,323 posted on 06/26/2005 12:03:57 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

see I didn't know what picture you were talking about the other day - I didn't know there was picture in post 706.


2,324 posted on 06/26/2005 12:05:59 PM PDT by stlnative (BUT DON'T ASK ME TO BACK THAT UP OR CONFIRM IT)
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To: brigette

So if Steve Croes wasn't involved -- since they're releasing him -- how did N disappear? A different boat? Maybe they should have cadaver dogs search the VDS house/yard, also along that beach by the Marriot. Why the ATM withdrawals?


2,325 posted on 06/26/2005 12:07:11 PM PDT by hershey
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To: All

OK... I gotta get off here and do some housework today. :-(


2,326 posted on 06/26/2005 12:07:28 PM PDT by stlnative (BUT DON'T ASK ME TO BACK THAT UP OR CONFIRM IT)
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To: wardaddy
From http://www.cmt.com/artists/az/twitty_conway/bio.jhtml

Conway Twitty was born Harold Jenkins on Sept. 1, 1933, in the small town of Friars Point, Miss. His father, a riverboat pilot, taught him his first guitar chords when Conway was just 4 years old.

2,327 posted on 06/26/2005 12:08:01 PM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: brigette

I did not know what picture Big Jake was speaking of because he only stated that the guy was Freddy but did not have the other pic to compare it to.


2,328 posted on 06/26/2005 12:08:05 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: NCjim

where did he get the name Twitty?

strange stage name isn't it?


2,329 posted on 06/26/2005 12:10:57 PM PDT by wardaddy (Can anybody tell me how to post from Gannett?)
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To: maggiefluffs; All

PVDS being sent back to jail per Fox News.


2,330 posted on 06/26/2005 12:11:25 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Interesting the kid was seeing a shrink and had a bad temper...thanks for the ping to that post from the article in the Netherlands.


2,331 posted on 06/26/2005 12:11:43 PM PDT by Peach
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To: debg
It is my understanding that the hosting IM company (AOL, Yahoo, MSN, etc.) keeps the IM's for a period of about 3 years. LE would then subpoena the host to retrieve the IM's.

I thought I'd heard about that in another case and am glad you remember the details of how that works.

2,332 posted on 06/26/2005 12:13:17 PM PDT by Peach
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To: NCjim; wardaddy
Conway Twitty:

Twitty used a map of the South to decide his name. He came up with the name Conway Twitty from Conway, Arkansas, and Twitty, Texas

2,333 posted on 06/26/2005 12:15:24 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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I've been thinking about disposing of a body...

I read a LOT of mystery novels..

What if a body was placed in a freezer? Could a cadaver dog smell that?

HORRIBLE thought - of course the ocean is the first place .. it is an island afterall - but what if whoever took her did not have access to a boat?


2,334 posted on 06/26/2005 12:17:01 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: maggiefluffs
Sure looks like to me she did not even intend to go with Joren. And there was a link yesterday to an article on the Dark Side about the practice called carving out where males surround the female victim to separate her from her group which it seems is sadly a common practice in the region. Block her from their view and they from hers and just sort of jostle her along to the waiting car or whatever.

This sounds EXACTLY like the actions of the man I knew from Aruba. Mind you, it was very many years ago that I knew him.
2,335 posted on 06/26/2005 12:18:10 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: TexKat; brigette

ABC... now it all makes sense!! Those b#$%^%$!


2,336 posted on 06/26/2005 12:18:49 PM PDT by Big Jake
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To: GarySpFc
This sounds EXACTLY like the actions of the man I knew from Aruba. Mind you, it was very many years ago that I knew him.

Predators pass their knowledge on to others.

2,337 posted on 06/26/2005 12:19:32 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: maggiefluffs
I have heard rumors to the effect that NH's dad was in either the Special Forces or Special Ops. in the past, but I have not been able to confirm it. I did Google and find a David Holloway listed with pictures, but it is not Natalee's dad. I know these men, and if he was SF, then JvdS has a major problem.
2,338 posted on 06/26/2005 12:23:23 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: wardaddy

Conway, AR & Twitty, TX

I can't sing, but if I could sing like him, I'd have been Slapout Eclectic.:-)


2,339 posted on 06/26/2005 12:23:36 PM PDT by auboy
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Aruba judge orders release of disc jockey

6/26/2005, 1:26 p.m. CT

By PETER PRENGAMAN The Associated Press

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — A judge ordered Aruban police Sunday to release a party boat disc jockey held in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, saying authorities did not have enough evidence against him, the man's lawyer said.

Steven Gregory Croes, 26, is one of five people held in the disappearance of Holloway, an Alabama honors student last seen in the early hours of May 30. None of the five, including an island judicial official and his 17-year-old son, has been charged in the case.

Searches for Holloway have been fruitless.

"The judge agreed there is not enough proof he was involved to keep holding him," said Croes' lawyer, Eleni Lotter-Homan.

Croes, who was detained June 17, will be released Monday, Lotter-Homan said. He is a disc jockey on the party boat Tattoo, which offers nightly dining, dancing and swimming.

Joran van der Sloot, 17, and Surinamese brothers Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18, were the last ones seen with Holloway, 18, of Mountain Brook, Ala. Her passport and packed bags were found in her room.

After a night of eating, drinking and dancing at Carlos' N' Charlie's restaurant, the three men initially told police they took Holloway to a northern beach before dropping her off at her hotel around 2 a.m.

But on Saturday, Satish Kalpoe's lawyer said his client admitted that his story was a lie.

Satish now claims that he and brother dropped Holloway and van der Sloot off together at the Marriott hotel, then went home, his lawyer, David Kock, said.

On Sunday, Kock said the brothers were becoming increasingly angry with van der Sloot and accusing him of changing his story to put the blame for Holloway's disappearance on them.

Kock would not elaborate.

Van der Sloot's lawyer, Antonio Carlo, said, "My client maintains his innocence."

The fifth person in custody is van der Sloot's father, Paul, 52.

It was not clear how the disc jockey might be connected to the other detainees. His employer said Croes told him he knew one of the Kalpoe brothers because they went to the same Internet cafe.

2,340 posted on 06/26/2005 12:24:47 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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