Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

[Howlin]

I'm beginning to wonder how they convict anybody!

[beyond the sea]

Did you ping all of those people over to this thread to disrupt it and talk about golf swings, or do you want to join in on the discussion about Natalee Holloway?

Oh please, lighten up.

I was not expecting any of them to reply and disturb your speculations and ruminations on Natalee. I just wanted the golf fans I know to have a nice laugh on Sunday morning.

Get over it.

[cajungirl]

Blonde judge,,hair alot like Nat's mom and Nat's aunt.

[cajungirl]

well, holding them for up to 6 months and interrogating constantly in terrible conditions,,they might get confessions.

[TexKat]

Official: Dad Detained to Pressure Son - Fox News 6/26/05

Judge to rule on Aruba detentions - CNN 6/26/05

In Aruba mystery, more questions than answers - MSNBC 6/26/05

[maggief]

I was just searching for that site:

From SM:

Sure looks like to me she did not even intend to go with Joren. And there was a link yesterday to an article on the Dark Side about the practice called carving out where males surround the female victim to separate her from her group which it seems is sadly a common practice in the region. Block her from their view and they from hers and just sort of jostle her along to the waiting car or whatever.

[BamaBlue]

Great article...I must be getting old 'cause none of that sounds "fun" to me.

[TexKat]

Volunteer member of Texas EquuSearch, Darryl Philips of Houston, TX, puts a yellow flag into the ground during a search for missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway who disappeared on this Dutch Caribbean Island, May 30, in Aruba, Saturday, June 25, 2005. (AP Photo/Leslie Mazoch)

Texans search for missing teen Update

ORANJESTAD Aruba -- Volunteer rescuers from Texas led a sniffer dog over large swaths of land and scanned the ocean bottom with sonar Saturday in the latest search for U.S. teen-ager Natalee Holloway who disappeared almost a month ago.

Tim Miller director of Texas EquuSearch based in Dickenson said searchers focused on five or six areas of interest on land but declined to give details or say where they were looking in the sea.

EquuSearch's 24 volunteers including eight rescue divers arrived late Friday at the request of Paul Reynolds of Houston Holloway's uncle They brought four specialized dogs as well as the sonar equipment which technicians tested on a dock near the Holiday Inn where Holloway stayed.

Ralph Baird a petroleum engineer from Houston helping in the search said a probe with sonar sensors will be pulled at various depths to create a picture of the sea floor.

Baird said that will help divers eliminate areas without objects that look like bodies.

It's sad but we know we are not going out there to find someone alive he said Miller said that the search could cost up to $100,000 and that his group has raised about $25,000 No matter what happens we can't leave without Natalee he said.

Also on Saturday the lawyer for one of two Surinamese brothers being held in connection with her disappearance confirmed that his client admitted lying to police.

Satish Kalpoe had told investigators that he brother Deepak Kalpoe 21 and a Dutch friend dropped Holloway off alone at her hotel Satish Kalpoe now says he and his brother dropped off Holloway and 17-year-old Joran van der Sloot together at a Marriott hotel and then went home.

He lied initially to help his friends but said at a certain moment I can't help you anymore Satish Kalpoe's lawyer David Kock told The Associated Press without elaborating.

Joran's mother Anita van der Sloot 49 told AP last week that her son too had changed his story acknowledging that he and Holloway were alone together at a beach near the Marriott But she said her son insists that he left Holloway there and did not hurt her.

[cajungirl]

good article.

[Gracey]

Did you ping all of those people over to this thread to disrupt it and talk about golf swings
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Maybe "beyond the sea" is still in the "TERRIBLE TWOs" stage of life. He needs a good spanking or a "Time Out"

[Howlin]

I'm still not buying the "brought in to pressure son" thing; I think he's involved.

Even the librarian looking girl said they had to have cause or he would have been released.

[SunnySide]

"an article on the Dark Side about the practice called carving out where males surround the female victim to separate her from her group which it seems is sadly a common practice in the region. Block her from their view and they from hers and just sort of jostle her along to the waiting car or whatever."


How sickening, sounds like something right out of the book Lord of The Flies. Primitive animals

[TexKat]

Even the librarian looking girl

Mariaine Croes, Prosecutor Spokesperson.

[TexKat]

From SM:

fox reporter just said that one of the brother's emailed steve croes that night

[Gracey]

I have not ben impressed with any of Natalee's friends.
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I believe it was noted earlier that Beth Twitty and Natalee's family asked those friend who went to Aruba to not talk to anyone about the incident, as it could jeopardize the investigation. It seems that her friends are abiding by that. What you think?

Even Bill O'Reilly said he had a very difficult time finding anyone to come on his program and/or talk about Natalee.

[TexKat]

Since Deepak is so meticulous of his car if it is ever returned to him and if he ever gets to see it again, he is will crap his pants.

[texasbluebell]

But, I recall that Greta said the other day, when she and Beth met with the VDSs, that Daddy VDS told her he was a judge. Why would he say that if he just flunked his exam?

I heard that too on Greta. Another lie from the VDS clan, apparently.

[TexKat]

PDVS told Greta that he is/was a sit-in judge. You can find that up the thread a few hundred posts back.

[Peach]

Is law enforcement able to retrieve Instant Messages?

[TexKat]

From SM:

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:35 am

Post subject: scuffles

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Holloway’s friends saw van der Sloot both in the casino at the hotel where they were staying and at Carlos’N Charlies’, and a friend of Holloway said van der Sloot , a tall, broad-shouldered athlete , got into a scuffle with some of the Mountain Brook guys at the bar.

“I broke it up,” said Bryan Reynolds, 18. “It was outside the Carlos’N Charlies’ the second night we were there.”

Reynolds didn’t elaborate, and Barron said people who went on the trip aren’t publicly discussing details of what happened in Aruba at the request of Holloway’s family, which fears the publicity could hamper the investigation.

Dallas Also wrote:

LouLou wrote:

...4. Also Earlier articles, however, state that Joran was talking to her at C'nCs the 2nd night the group was there, and that's what caused the "scuffle". Seeing that her classmates did not approve of her new love interest, the romance might have been on the down low from that point...with people who observed her on the last night only presuming that she was meeting him for the first time.

The "scuffle" was a shouting match between Joran and Thomas Twitty. Yes, Twitty. Thomas Twitty is Natalee's step-cousin!!!

So actually, she had family that didn't approve of him right off the bat. The shouting match happened on 6-29-05 s/b 5/29, which is the same day she went to C'nCs and then went missing.

Dallas how did you find out it was one of her cousins? I appreciate you posting the info bc I had wondered who the scuffle was between. Its very interesting that it was a family member. That being said, I wonder what they didnt like about Joran? I also wonder what they told her mother about him. Very interesting.