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From SM:

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:35 am

Post subject: scuffles

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Holloway’s friends saw van der Sloot both in the casino at the hotel where they were staying and at Carlos’N Charlies’, and a friend of Holloway said van der Sloot , a tall, broad-shouldered athlete , got into a scuffle with some of the Mountain Brook guys at the bar.

“I broke it up,” said Bryan Reynolds, 18. “It was outside the Carlos’N Charlies’ the second night we were there.”

Reynolds didn’t elaborate, and Barron said people who went on the trip aren’t publicly discussing details of what happened in Aruba at the request of Holloway’s family, which fears the publicity could hamper the investigation.

Dallas Also wrote:

LouLou wrote:

...4. Also Earlier articles, however, state that Joran was talking to her at C'nCs the 2nd night the group was there, and that's what caused the "scuffle". Seeing that her classmates did not approve of her new love interest, the romance might have been on the down low from that point...with people who observed her on the last night only presuming that she was meeting him for the first time.

The "scuffle" was a shouting match between Joran and Thomas Twitty. Yes, Twitty. Thomas Twitty is Natalee's step-cousin!!!

So actually, she had family that didn't approve of him right off the bat. The shouting match happened on 6-29-05 s/b 5/29, which is the same day she went to C'nCs and then went missing.

Dallas how did you find out it was one of her cousins? I appreciate you posting the info bc I had wondered who the scuffle was between. Its very interesting that it was a family member. That being said, I wonder what they didnt like about Joran? I also wonder what they told her mother about him. Very interesting.

2,240 posted on 06/26/2005 8:57:21 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat; brigette

FNC ... hearing is over.

Waiting on judge to rule.


2,243 posted on 06/26/2005 9:00:30 AM PDT by maggief
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To: TexKat

The twitty boy is one of the twitty twins who are sons of Jar if I am not mistaken. this breaks my heart if it was him.

Rule: family is usually to be trusted when they don't like boyfriends.


2,244 posted on 06/26/2005 9:03:09 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: TexKat
The "scuffle" was a shouting match between Joran and Thomas Twitty. Yes, Twitty. Thomas Twitty is Natalee's step-cousin!!! So actually, she had family that didn't approve of him right off the bat. The shouting match happened on 6-29-05 s/b 5/29, which is the same day she went to C'nCs and then went missing

That's a very interesting tidbit, TexKat! No wonder Jug has an extra dose of dislike for the VDS's. I'm sure he found out all about Joran's behavior from his nephew and knew he was bad news from the get-go.

2,274 posted on 06/26/2005 10:26:28 AM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: TexKat
The "scuffle" was a shouting match between Joran and Thomas Twitty. Yes, Twitty. Thomas Twitty is Natalee's step-cousin!!!

I do see this as important. I suspect Thomas sensed Joran as a bad character. Men can spot men who have issues just as women can read other women.
2,346 posted on 06/26/2005 12:31:42 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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