Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

[auboy]

From Conway's bio: Conway Twitty was born Harold Jenkins on Sept. 1, 1933, in the small town of Friars Point, Miss. His father, a riverboat pilot, taught him his first guitar chords when Conway was just 4 years old.

Looks like there's no relation to Jug Twitty.

[TexKat]

wasn't there some singer named Twitty?

Conway Twitty.

[TexKat]

Good morning all!!

Nita Nupress thanks for the info on JM Croes.

[maggief]

Good morning!

It could be a while before we have any news from the courthouse.

PvdS and JvdS both in court together. That has to be something.

[NCjim]

Do we know at what time the hearing is scheduled?

[Howlin]

Dominick Dunne: I did not even think of Michael Skakel until a report called "The Sutton Report," which had been commissioned by the father Skakel to clear the name of his son Tommy, who had been the chief suspect for years. The Sutton Agency was a group of private detectives who signed confidentiality oaths when they went on the case for Mr. Skakel. It was one of the great ironies of this story that the private detectives hired by Mr. Skakel were the ones who first discovered that it was Michael, not Tommy, who had committed the murder. The report took three years and cost $750,000. Right after it was presented, the money was paid, the project was called off, but there was one person at the agency who had not signed the confidentiality oath, and he took the report and brought it to me. That was when I realized that it was Michael, who had never been a suspect before. And that was 1995 or 1996.

[Howlin]

Last night they said it was suppose to be at 8:30, so maybe we'll hear something soon.

[maggief]

It's underway right now. All five cases will heard separately.

[Velveeta]

bookmark

[TexKat]

PvdS and JvdS both in court together. That has to be something.

Are they taking the fifth or does Aruba have such a thing.

I have seen clips of the courthouse since I have been up, where are all the media people that was in front of the building yesterday. Are they all hung over from C&C?

[Howlin]

Just a word about Rudy Croes; while I was reading the CTV boards last night, they kept saying that Rudy had been unreliable in the past -- and that he was the one who first said that Natalee was dead and had to retract it.

I couldn't find a link or a quote anywhere over there to back it up, but I saw more than one person say he wasn't reliable.

For some reaon, when I watch those Arbuan government people talking, I keep thinking of that character Martin Short use to play on Saturday Night Live, the one that was sweating all the time and being interviewed by a "Mike Wallace" actor. I can never tell whether they are spouting the government line or covering their butts.

[maggief]

If I understand correctly, under Aruban law a father does not have to testify against his son.

I don't know if there's a "fifth."

Is Dad passing signals to his son? That's what I'd watch for.

[hershey]

Thanks for the details. I think I heard/saw DD on tv, talking about the person Skakel's lawyers hadn't made sign that confidentiality oath, and that he'd sent the ms. to DD. Talk about for the want of a nail a shoe was lost, etc. etc.

[Howlin]

I got the impression that "family" doesn't have to testify against "family."

If so, we may never know anything.

[Dante3]

Someone on Fox News stated that in Aruba a parent does not have to testify what a child said, but does have to testify what a child did.

[Peach]

Someone on Fox News stated that in Aruba a parent does not have to testify what a child said, but does have to testify what a child did.

I heard that guy on FNC too. He said a few states in this country have the same law, but it's rare.

[cajungirl]

Parent has to testify as to what he "saw". So if Papa Sloot saw Nat's body lying in bushes, he has to say. If mama Sloot saw freshly laundered clothes of Jorans, she has to say. If Joran never touched a washing machine prior to this, she has to say.

you can find out alot by what the mama saw in my opinion.

[TexKat]

On leaving Carlos 'N Charlie's that night the Americans encountered the gentleman on the right taking an impromptu siesta. The large stain on his pants is apparently not spilled alcohol.

(Vanishing of Natalee Holloway)... A Typical Night At Carlos 'N Charlie's?

[Peach]

Hi, cajungirl. I heard a guy talk about Aruban law as it relates to what parents have to testify to with regard to their kids. It was around 4:00 or so, IIRC.

Maybe some else came on FNC to clarify or with better information. So that's a lot that parents would have to testify to, in reality.

I have a feeling the father would lie for his son, but I don't think the mother would. In fact, in her interview, didn't I hear her say "why did they let the boys go; they should have kept asking them questions."

[TexKat]

Female judge!!