Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

[Peach]

Thank you so much for the pings to the developments and new information.

[GarySpFc]

As for Joran's sites, who took them down? I don't know how these personal sites are set up nor how they are taken down. These sites (My Place, etc) are real eye openers....and not in a good way. TIA

On one site which contained pictures of Joran the owner receieved an email from Joran asking the owner to blur Joran's face.

[hershey]

The person who sent D.Dunne that P.I. investigation team's secret report on the probable identity of Martha Moxley's killer was the young man told to make copies in the Skakel lawyer's office.

[beyond the sea]

The rain only lasted about 15 minutes. You know that type of "pop up" thunder shower we have in the summer? Anyhow, it was much better than nothing.

[beyond the sea]

LOL. I was watching one of my favorite golfers, Jim Furyk, playing so I passed on a little golf lingo.

Take care......

p.s. Jim has one of the strangest and unorthodox swings on the PGA Tour, having a backswing that goes all over the place. It was described by the very funny David Feherty like this:

"Furyk's swing looks like a one-armed man trying to kill a snake in a phone booth."

;-)

[maggief]

arubagirl says there's a pay phone next to McD's but it requires a phone card, not coin operated.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

I remember Great Scientology, interviewing two girls, but that part I am not sure. I have not ben impressed with any of Natalee's friends. It appears to me that are all struck with a PC "Kalifornia Dreamin" mindset.

(Real friends) look out for each other, even if they upset the apple-cart in doing so. If these girls are any indication of what best, good or nominal friends are in life. I would have preferred to go it alone, one can depend on one's self and not scatter brains like those so-called friends. NSNR

[maggief]

LOL

[xsmommy]

sure is. his name is John Coale.

[af_vet_1981]

Both Jordan and Kissel state she was not intoxicated, and yet a couple of ladies from New Jersey reportedly saw her in the bathroom and said she looked to be in trouble. I am getting the feeling she was slipped GHB just prior to leaving.

It was already mentioned in one of these threads that it was not Natalee, but another young woman of the group whoe was the one sick in the bathroom.

I think it possible (perhaps likely) that she was drugged if there was an element of truth to what the Deepak brother said about her being "very, very drunk." That would have been noticeable by her friends unless she was drugged and whisked away quickly (which seems to be what happened).

[No Surrender No Retreat]

TexKat, I believe Whoraldo thinks of himself as a, (Mac-Daddy, Player, Rico Suave) Whoraldo, fronting for the camera on his yatch in hopes of impressing/snagging a young beach babe. A very comical persona to the upteenth degree. NSNR

[Nita Nupress]

(Geraldo speaking) Rudy Croes also asked me to stress that the father (JVDS) is not a judge, he is a FAILED judge. He applied to the authorities in the mother country of the Netherlands in Holland to become a judge, he was TURNED DOWN, so just ironically a week before before Natalee disappeared on the 29th/30th of May, just a week before that Paulus had been to see Rudy Croes asking for a job and they were trying to figure out what the father could do for a living now that the father has been TURNED DOWN to be a judge.

I'm sure this has already been pointed out, but just in case it wasn't...

PVDS was evidently a gambler and may be carrying a large debt he's desperate to pay. Add that to the desperate feelings a man, the provider of his family, may have after being told he just wasted the last few years of his life and now has no job, no income, and status as a "failure" among his peers.

Desperate men sometimes do desperate things. Does anyone here seriously entertain the thought that he would become involved in mob/smuggling/human trafficking activity to pay his debts and avoid losing his shirt?

Also, Rudy Croes is in a family that has been accused of being heavily involved in mafia activity. The week before Nat disappeared, PVDS went to Croes to ask what he could do to pay his bills. I saw the Geraldo interview, and I didn't see Rudy Croes indicate that he gave PVDS any hope of obtaining any type of government job. It was what Rudy didn't say that stood out to me.

Something in my head keeps going "ding, ding, ding" and it won't stop. ;-)

If this scenario is true and I was Paulus Van der sloot, I would be very scared right now. For that matter, Rudy Croes would have a reason to be a little worried, too.

[xsmommy]

OMG!!!!!!! BARF!!!!!!!

[maggief]

Good finds:

Cyber Cafe closed at 10:00, matches unconfirmed email.

JvdS called DK for ride at 2:30am

Text messaged DK later, (45 min.) not to pick him up he found another way home.

Question: Is DK getting paid to chauffeur JvdS around the island?

[af_vet_1981]

7:30 am Joran in school bragging about sex with Natalee -- also saying she drowned??

Most Interesting

[demkicker]

Did you ping all of those people over to this thread to disrupt it and talk about golf swings, or do you want to join in on the discussion about Natalee Holloway?

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Hey John, do remember the picture of Sir Westly with the Vee neck sweater, on the front page of a national magazine? It reminded me of of the song Vogue. Westly was striking a pose for,"Unfamous Gay Men In America." (Satire) NSNR

[Nita Nupress]

You're driving me crazy, xsmommy! Who is John Coale and why are you barfing?

I already have this thread written. It's just waiting until I have time to post it. I'm giving everyone fair warning right now that you may be used as an example of how not to post. lol!

[maggief]

I don't buy it either.