Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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[stlnative]

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[TexKat]

Does anybody remember what the message was that Joran supposedly sent to Deepak on Yahoo Messenger or email that night?

I don't know if this is widely reported by anyone else but from an article by Clint Van Zandt on June 15:

One unhappy island

The brothers have said that they received an e-mail from Van Der Sloot the evening that Holloway disappeared, perhaps after they had left Van Der Sloot and Holloway together, location unknown. Because of this the authorities will have a time line from the time the four of them left the local bar to the time of the e-mail, a time line that needs to be filled in.

[hummingbird]

They can't toss Greta out of the hotel. Everybody just needs to double up in the rooms...like at Mardi Gras!

[spectre]

Oh no, not the "unhappy miserable woman" routine again. It's awful being a "kept" woman, huh Howlin. Life's a beach!

Rushing to door at Aruban Courthouse...on FOX..

[stlnative]

you can't have it both ways... you just were posting about beyond the sea coming in here.

I see people who change the topic with one post and then with 20+ posts to follow by numerous people that takes the thread off topic and then there are people who post crap like beyond the sea did and people who think they have to reply to beyond the sea, again pulling the thread off topic again.

beyond the sea posted to me, not anyone else to start with. I did not respond to beyond the sea because I know what he/she is doing.
I don't feel like I have to point that out to anyone on the thread, thus pulling the thread away from the Natalee Case once again.

[Howlin]

Jug said that the manager of the HI made Paulus stay outside the hotel. Wonder why?

[hummingbird]

Geraldo has to have a scoop to hype his show. Wonder what BS he comes up with this time.

The key question is what will he be wearing. Geraldo is a very stylin' kind of reporter! I'm kind of excited about his wardrobe but Greta really needs to still be the point-man until this is over.

I mean, fair's fair....

[stlnative]

I can do it (make it all pretty and in html), but I know that I cannot back up any of it because everything is hearsay (even through the media) and I would be called on it once again.

[maggief]

Ewwww!

I'm liking what Greta is doing in Aruba, but what a visual.

[Miss Marple]

I appreciate this thread. I have not been able to keep up because I had grandkids here all this week.

Speaking from experience, ALL threads go off-topic occasionally. It is best to expect that and have some strategies for getting people back on message.

Because this thread is so long, people like me are going to pop in and out checking the current happenings. Few will bother to read the whole thread before posting, as I do. Hence the questions.

I wouldn't let it distract from the excellent work you are doing. Thanks again. (Sorry if this annoys you as being off-topic.)

[maggief]

Dan thinks he's Matt Drudge ...

Possible News from Aruba coming later, not sure of time frames ... developing.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/

[jacquej]

I am with you, brigette. Too many people are getting off-topic, building theories based upon other unverified speculative "facts".

From reading all the threads here, and on two other well know forums, what I get so far is that there are two different possible causes for Natalee's disappearance.

One, more probable, she was the victim of drinking/drugs gone wrong, and her body was disposed of. Time passing made it harder to figure out where, etc...

Second, perhaps the one Beth is clinging to, but more improbable, a kidnapping for some nefarious purpose. Whether the 'Sloots were involved with it or not, no-one knows.

Just my effort to clarify the situation, whether I have helped or not, no clue.

[stlnative]

strategies for getting people back on message.

Yes... I have one and that is to post that FR link to the thread. I did this yesterday when the 2 boys where found dead and still people took an offense to it. I did it just like this...

Here is the discussion thread on...
(Title of thread)
(Link to thread)

[TexKat]

Suspects Appearing in court 3 p.m. eastern, developing now:

From FOX:

Suspects can't enter any kind of bail or bond. Victim's family can't be present at proceedings, but can be present at the trial.

[Miss Marple]

Replaying interview with the brothers' mom now. Her last statement...she thinks Natalie is still alive.

[stlnative]

CORRECTION
oops... SOME people took offense (not all)

[TexKat]

Dan thinks he's Matt Drudge ...

LOL!!

[Peach]

Considering that howlin enjoys a lovely lifestyle, it's starting to sound like someone on this thread (not you, of course, spectre) is rather jealous, eh?