Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[Pepper777]

PVDS couldn't remember if he had gone to work on May 30th, the day Natalee disappeared, which was rather strange. That day should have stood out in his mind or you'd think it would have.

[the Deejay]

Spokesman says they never have sharks and in 50 odd years have never had a shark attack or seen any.

Yeah, right.

Just like the low crime rate.

Which we now know differently in these past weeks.

Then why do they have a big jail & prison?

I know all around Caracas, (I lived there), sharks infest the waters.

Who thinks sharks say, "We can't go near Aruban waters, it's a major tourist area."

[stlnative]

yeah that's it *228

[Howlin]

But he's charged with "premeditated murder," too.

[Howlin]

yeah that's it *228

So, we're all "in?" :-)

[spectre]

He couldn't RECALL going to work or he DIDN'T go to work? Did someone slip him a Roofer?

Strange..

[stlnative]

Can you hear me now?

[the Deejay]

I didn't hear the dad say much
of anything to Greta. I'd like
to see a repeat of that 'view or
a transcript.

[Peach]

LOL. I thought PETA said sharks were smart.

We have been to Curacao which is one of the ABC islands next to Aruba and while beautiful, there were definite neighborhoods where one didn't venture at night because of the crime.

And, they had nets up at the inlet where we swam. No reason to do that but to keep the sharks out.

[Pepper777]

It looks like Dash (Natalee's friend), and another friend, will be on Fox next. I can't remember her real name. I think it starts with an A - Arlan, maybe.

[Howlin]

Yep. Is it Option 2? LOL......I never can remember!

[the Deejay]

No reason to do that but to keep the sharks out.

Exactly.

[Peach]

Friends up on FNC

[stlnative]

Why is BOR showing this again?

[maggief]

Dash repeat.

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RWV:

Update 8:15 PM

The full throttle search is anticipated to begin tomorrow. They are starting with three grids, one over water and two over land. They will cover those grids before moving on to additional grids based upon evidence or indicators that suggest one spot being more likely to be productive, than another.

Boats are expected to run 24/7 with two boats on the water at all times. In the event of a sonar hit, divers will be dispatched into the area.

There is a great deal of conflicting talk coming from the island. Some is consistent with much of what is in the news, other speculation is very different. Honestly, I can't ascertain the motivations, and in some cases the root source for some of what is being said.

Unfortunately, what I also cannot do is conclude that anyone has extablished beyond a reasonable doubt what really happened that night, or has even established a solid theory. As always in this case, that doesn't mean authorities don't have one; but if they do, they seem to be keeping a pretty good lid on that, as Dutch law requires.

It's quite possible that their necessary silence is leaving room for any number of theories and speculations that will prove unfounded.

Some individuals on the ground are still feeling very positive as regards the current cooperation of the Aruban authorities.

[pamlet]

It was so strange the way he said it... he said that all the charges COULD mean that he he'd advised his son ...

I thought it was strange - it was yet ANOTHER spin on the whole "charge"

[Howlin]

Actually, I thought he might have gotten caught off guard there for a few minutes and said something he wasn't suppose to say.

[Peach]

I thought sonar picked up movement but maybe I'm thinking of another piece of equipment.

Can they actually see into the water with sonar?

[jacquej]

excessive alcohol can do that to you, or so I am told... ya can't remember nuttin, nohow...

[sarasota]

Complicity (according to Napolitano) is someone who helped the perp cover his tracks.