Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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[stlnative]

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[TexKat]

Natalee left her cellphone in her bag at the hotel. It would not work on the island (so she thought). The one person who stayed behind was able to reprogram it so that it would work in Aruba and he used it to call Natalee mom with until they got the island.

oh thank you brigette. Could Natalee have had someone else's cell phone with her?

[Peach]

OT: Three missing New Jersey boys found dead.

[the Deejay]

Of course! Three little boys
finding themselves in a dark
& hot place?

They would be screaming and pounding
like crazy out of fear.

[TexKat]

I should think police would know by now to check the car trunk FIRST.

My thoughts as well. And why did the parents not check the trunk of the car. If I heard correctly last night the children were missing at least 2 hours before LE was called.

[CitizenM]

OMG...THE THREE BOYS FOUND - DEAD IN THE TRUNK OF A CAR!!!!! OMG

In the driveway? Yes, one would have thought they would have been shouting, kicking, screaming, etc. How did they get put in without raising a commotion? Did they climb in themselves and slam the trunk shut themselves? I doubt that. Geeze what a wierd, tragic, horrible story. Our poor, poor children.

[hershey]

Someone in the know about LE on Aruba said the cops can't force a parent to divulge anything a child has said to him in private, as long as it's one to one. If someone else is dragged into the scenario or knows, then the deal's off.

[stlnative]

They do have rental cellphones on the island, but I understand that most US cellphones will not work on the island, so many people rent them and I have not heard that she rented one or had someone elses cell with her.

Some phones can be reprogrammed for international use, it all depends of the cell company. When I go to St. Louis I have to change my calling zone. I have 3 zones on my phone that I can use.

[hershey]

Oh, my, that's really a slap. Joran is busy passing on guilt to his mom. You're absolutely right.

[CitizenM]

If I heard correctly last night the children were missing at least 2 hours before LE was called.

I believe I read in the original article, it was 4 hours before anyone was notified!!!

[the Deejay]

I could be wrong on this,
but! I think there's
more to this than meets
the eye w/the little boys
shut in the trunk.

[hershey]

Just saw that on the news. Tragic.

[Big Jake]

I know Verizon is big in Puerto Rico, most people do not have land lines.. I can get cell service there without trouble or reprogramming.

[stlnative]

Breaking: 3 missing N.J. boys found dead inside car trunk.
The discussion thread is here...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430148/posts

[hershey]

Even if N had had the phone and it had worked that night, would dialing 911 be the same? Still, it's weird the way all the threads link up. Her phone, thought unusable, used to contact her mom after she's vanished.

[TexKat]

I can't imagine believing my daughter was in that home and then the VDS take me in a room where they have the prayer card with my daughters picture on it propped in front of a candle.

I believe I would have lost it at that point.

[Big Jake]

I think we can all understand why she didn't want to go back for the second interview...

[hershey]

Maybe the kids were simply playing, only how would they have closed the trunk on themselves? Besides, they'd have started yelling, kicking, and banging on the trunk lid, and someone, the mom, would have heard them.

[TexKat]

Where is the picture of Freddy?

[the Deejay]

The prayer card & candle
was the next day when
only Greta went there.
Beth didn't go that
day.

[stlnative]

I have Verizon, but I still have to change my calling area (zone) if I travel about 50 miles from my Home calling zone. I have an older phone though and anything beyond 50 miles from my home has me roaming.

Point is she had a decent service, but did not how to reprogram her phone to get it to work in Aruba, but someone later figured out how to do it after she was missing.