Posted on 06/23/2005 7:30:08 AM PDT by Helmholtz
U.S. Supreme Court says cities have broad powers to take property.
I try not to paint with the broad brush. Ready to "out" me, yet? :)
I hope this creates such a national outrage...
One would hope. Tell me, does ANYTHING create an outrage anymore? It is incomprehensible to me that no one seems willing to do much of anything.
From Turban, to the swimmer, to that mind numbed robot Howeird, to the insanity in the senate and all most say is vote them out or nothing can be done. Well a heck of a lot of damage can be done in 6 or 4 or 2 years as we wait to vote them out.
Sorry it took so long to get back to you, but I was investigating 1187 which required changing both my printer cartridges and having to walk away for a bit.
The bottom line: people will die over this.
it only doesn't trump when the state takes action that places the state above the individual. In other words, if a state takes actions that punish the individual or small business above and beyond the federal level, then it is allowed. Collectivism is killing this country.
they are true parasites. The have no skills that anyone in the marketplace would value, so they go into government. The parasite class is quite happy with this ruling.
It's Hamiltonianism, which is the father of Lincolnian protosocialism (Homestead Act, income taxes) and access capitalism/corporate welfarism.
Big-government "conservatives", aren't. They're conservative in the European sense, that Tories were conservative in America during the Revolution.
Hamilton's and the Federalists' positions on the various liberty and property issues could best be described as Toryism and royalism but without the King; they were opposed by the Patriots, who became the Antifederalists and then Democratic Republicans (Jeffersonian Democrats, we call them now), who were the 18th-century liberals.
It was the Patriots who pushed for liberty and independence in the Revolution and fully intended to frustrate the Federalists' drive to bring back Leviathan government. The Federalists had the same conception of government generally as Edmund Burke and the English Tories, but wanted the powers of government deployed only as their own tool and servant rather than the King's.
It was also the old Patriots -- Patrick Henry, George Mason, John Hancock -- the old Liberty firebrands -- who pushed, against Hamilton's scorn that he poured out in Federalist Nos. 84 and 85, the last issues in the series, for our Bill of Rights. They didn't trust Hamilton and the business crowd. Thank God they didn't. Can you imagine what our lives would be like without the Bill of Rights?
Does this help identify the players and their interest in this issue? The liberty interest here was defeated by the ukase of the Supreme Court, and the Court's opinion was a decision very similar to what John Jay and John Marshall, good Federlist men both of them, would have written in similar circumstances, given the existence of eminent domain at the time (it didn't exist yet -- the termites still had a ways to chew).
All the judges who sided with this should be hung by the neck until dead, have their house(s) burned to the ground, the ground salted and their families driven into the wilderness.
Actually, "collectivism" makes sure you have a road to drive on when you get in your car, and police to make that road safe, firemen to put fires out, etc... Global corporations with Chicom slave labor camps are killing this country....or our politicians' collective will to allow it all to continue.
Oh, no! They hedge their bets -- they spread it around, you bet!
There are biases, but serious businessmen with regulatory issues make sure they give to both sides.
This is the answer. Maybe not a complete answer, but the best and most efficient answer for now.
In several states what happened in Connecticut could never happen because the people in those states have implemented constitutional and legislative measures designed to prevent it.
Look at my page.
How's Skinner & the Gang, BTW? :)
Yeah, raving diatribes and insults get us nowhere fast. I'm really finding that there are a few issues where we can agree, so those MUST be the ones that need real attention.
Personally, I come from an architectural background. Consequently, I am a big fan of good urban design, so this issue is really at a unique crux for me, you know?
Skinner is kickin it like always :)
I see no difference. None, nada, zippo. Eminent Domain is every bit as bad as RICO and the "Interstae Commerce Clause", warped beyond recognition.
Another chunk of the Fifth, the most important provision in the Bill of Rights, the inalienable right to life, had already died with Terri Schindler Schiavo.
They simply pretend that these principles don't exist.
No, they won't -- not yours.
You seem not to get it. The Bushes are Business Wing Republicans, Yacht Clubbers who use the law and government and "principles" the way you use a knife and fork: they only work when they're a one-way conveyor belt.
Hamiltonian business Republicans don't have principles, they have bank accounts. That is the fundamental division within the Republican Party.
They will NOT defend your property rights.
Remember, George W. Bush was involved in the Ballpark in Arlington deal, which had several elements in common with the takings in this case.
we are in agreement it is a bad ruling. You seem to point fingers first at corporations. The simple fact is the court has given a green light to local governments to plunder the little guy. The primary fault lies strictly with government. If we had a government as our Founders intended, these "greedy" corporations, developers, etc, would petition the government all they do now, but the difference would be they would be told over and over, what you seek is unconstitutional. The little local parasites in government will be quite happy tonight. I am tired, have a good night. Thanks for you comments.
We can DEFINITELY agree on that. The best democracy money can buy!
I have to agree with your assessment. Claire Wolf's "awkward period" is over .
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