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It could withhold some or all of their state income tax refund and deposit it in what Romney called a ''personal healthcare spending account."

Interesting place to put the money. One would think it should go to the hospital in payment of the bill. Or is this policy going to apply to all uninsured persons whether they pay their hospital bills or not?

1 posted on 06/22/2005 4:47:30 PM PDT by inquest
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is this policy going to apply to all uninsured persons whether they pay their hospital bills or not?

doesn't sound like it to me:

the state could recoup the medical costs in several ways...

I'm guessing it only applies if there's an unpaid bill.
2 posted on 06/22/2005 4:53:33 PM PDT by Nathan Jr.
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Can't you just hear the liberal outcry over this? "Romney's against the poor! Health care is a RIGHT!"

I know many people who have no health insurance, yet have the best cars, travel all the time, you get the idea.

I don't begrudge them their pleasures, but why should I have to pay when they incur bills they can't pay out of pocket?

And of course, up here in Massachusetts, the answer the State pushes is: MassHealth, aka welfare. I've been hearing advertising lately on AM radio for food stamps. Really upbeat ads that make welfare seem like no big deal....everyone's doing it! Advertising welfare. Only in Massachusetts.


5 posted on 06/22/2005 5:02:43 PM PDT by LostInBayport (Massachusetts liberals refuse to admit we exist...we are the 37% who voted for GWB)
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Karen Davis, president of the Commonwealth Fund, a private foundation that supports research on health and social issues, said: ''The sticking point has always been the affordability of coverage. It's one thing to tell people they have to buy it. If they can't afford it, what do you do? Fine them? Put them in jail?"

It must be nice to be in charge of billions of dollars of philanthropy money. You can bet that if Hillary had proposed the same thing, this woman would be fawning all over her. I doubt that the creators of the Commonwealth Fund would be impressed with the socialists who control it now.

6 posted on 06/22/2005 5:03:24 PM PDT by petitfour
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Why not just give 100% to the government and let them take care of everything? I did not read the rest of this article, are the illegals exempt from this? Should we just give Mass. to Canada?


7 posted on 06/22/2005 5:05:07 PM PDT by Normal4me
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The concept of Liberty is foreign to some people.


8 posted on 06/22/2005 5:06:22 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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Next, you will face penalties and/or jail time for not making your bed, failing to take out the trash, and leaving the seat up. This is yet another power grab by insurance companies hand-in-glove with nanny staters, pure and simple.


10 posted on 06/22/2005 5:07:16 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel (Theyre digging through all of your files, stealing back your best ideas.)
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A bloated bureaucracy gets the money any way you cut it. I say keep government out of anything, whenever possible.


11 posted on 06/22/2005 5:12:14 PM PDT by wolfman
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Some of these people honestly cant afford insurance and food too. You cant get blood out of a turnip.


12 posted on 06/22/2005 5:19:48 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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The poorest of the poor qualify for Medicaid. I come across people all the time who essentially "roll the dice" by not carrrying any insurance, even though they can afford it. They are usually young and appear healthy, so they choose not to spend any money on monthly premiums that they believe are unnecessary. The problem is that when these people DO get sick, they often can't afford their hospital and physician bills. It's not uncommon for patients to rack up hundreds of thousands of dollars in hospital bills which will never be collected. Who pays those bills? The state/municipality picks up some of it, but most of it is passed on to you and I in the form on higher insurance premiums, (since hospitals charge significantly more than the actual costs of services in order to recoup the cost of treating uninsured patients).

It's essentially the same things as requiring drivers to have liability insurance, and I fully support this move.

By the way, for people who don't get insurance from their work, their is no reason not to have a new Health Savings Account. It's essentially an IRA that's used for health care costs. You have to have a high deductible insurance policy, which are available for under $500/month for a family of 4. (My family's premium is $408/month, with a 55 yo husband and 52 yo wife and two college students).

California is also considering a similar proposal:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1340285/posts


16 posted on 06/22/2005 5:34:05 PM PDT by MedNole
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Oh this is good, let's start a NEW trend of Governmental Confiscation of personal income.

This country needs far more than an enama I think, it needs a real solid house cleaning!


20 posted on 06/22/2005 5:43:49 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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Most illegal aliens will be unaffected by such steps.


22 posted on 06/22/2005 5:51:10 PM PDT by expatpat
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Fascist.


28 posted on 06/22/2005 6:10:08 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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I have a better idea.

Make insurance illegal. (And watch health care prices collapse.)

ML/NJ

30 posted on 06/22/2005 6:23:21 PM PDT by ml/nj
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I don't have health insurance. I belong to a PPO Network. How does this bill affect those that joined a network? The network is not insurance.


37 posted on 06/22/2005 6:38:24 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Or, it might take money out of the person's paycheck, as it does now to collect child support.

LOL!! So the feminists might actually get bit by the monster that they have helped to create.

42 posted on 06/22/2005 6:56:39 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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IS HE A COMMUNIST?
How about just refusing treatment?
It's a tough lesson, but some are examples and some learn fom examples.


43 posted on 06/22/2005 6:57:16 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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But not if you are an illegal alien.


50 posted on 06/22/2005 7:38:31 PM PDT by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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I agree: the thing that I find silly about this proposal is that they aren't garnishing wages to pay the med bills. Forcing people to pay health insurance seems downright un-American, too me. But it would be perfectly appropriate to collect on the actual med charges. Do that, and suddenly people will find a way to buy some kind of insurance - the ones who really can afford it, anyway.


54 posted on 06/22/2005 7:57:24 PM PDT by Nevermore (Mad as Zell)
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This is idiotic and very un-conservative. I know many people who lack insurance, and negotiate fees with their doctors for cash.


60 posted on 06/22/2005 8:51:43 PM PDT by montag813
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Based on this from the article. . .

If they refuse, the state could recoup the medical costs in several ways

. . .it would seem it only applies to those who do not pay their bills.

62 posted on 06/23/2005 5:52:30 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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