Posted on 06/17/2005 9:18:36 PM PDT by bayourod
It really doesn't make any difference because all of the bills will be introduced, sent to committee, changes made, submitted to House and Senate and finally the conference committee will write the guest worker bill that will pass.
Yes, he is. Bayourod is a predictable advocate of illegal behavior.
The lie is your statement.
The fact is illegals don't pay taxes, or at least their evasion is grossly disproportionate to their representation in the "Taxpayer" population. IOW, if, for example, illegals represent 3% of the U.S population, they are responsible for 30% of tax fraud. (Those are illustrative numbers, I do not know the actual percentages--but then who does?).
You portray those against illegal immigration as "anti-illegal", but wouldn't "Pro-Law" be more accurate?
And what is going to make these "guest workers" return to their home countries after their participation in the guest worker program has expired? Absolutely nothing! You might as well replace the word "guest" with the word "permanent" because that's what they'll become, permanent workers. Then after they've been here long enough, they'll be in line for the next amnesty, and then American citizenship. And then the next group of "guest workers" will arrive in the U.S. and the whole process starts all over again.
What difference does it make? After the law is passed you will worship it and if you complain I wiil shout "It's the LAW, It's the LAW. What don't you understand about the LAW?"
Do you have a source for that?
No I'm not. I simply oppose those who are anti-bush, anti-Republican and are using the immigration issue to enrich themselves and sabotage the Republicans. I correct the myths, distortions, half-truths and disinformation the antis spread.
Do you ever stop to think about the truthfulness of your statements? It's a slippery slope.
Yes--34 years of experience--14 first-hand inside the IRS, 20 since leaving. My current and past clients included construction companies and landscapers who had to compete with other companies hiring illegals, and competing against the illegals themselves. The illegals started out working as W-2 employees under bogus SSN's, but in recent years have progressed to the Independent Contractor scam.
With all the preferences accorded to illegals because of the fear of being branded "racist", it is very easy for an illegal to start a business (most don't even bother filing incorporation papers at all--just give the general contractor their "Business" name and a bogus EIN)
& how do you pay income tax w/o a SSN ?
See? Your unbridled immigration is causing problems. However, it is *you* who doesn't seem to see it or care about the problems it brings.
I take it that's a "no I don't have any source for my statement that illegals don't pay taxes."
Who says that they have a SSN? You say they are paying income tax. How do you know that?
Well of course, you would "take it" that way. Let me put it in the vernacular of our esteemed liberal media: I am a direct "unnamed source"--you may call me "Deep Taxes".
I don't have to cite a third-party source--I witnessed the non-payment of taxes directly. And not just a "few". In 14 years inside the IRS I personally reviewed, prepared or processed over a million tax returns. My first-hand observations cannot be classified as "anecdotal".
Exactly how did you know which ones were from illegal aliens?
Very interesting that Bayourod would refuse to give an actual reply to your post.
If Bushs plan would mean workers come in and work for 3-6 years and then return home most of your hated "antis" would support it. But we all know that there would be a whole lot of rotating in and very little rotating out.
Your reply in your post #167 didn't even come close to answering my question in my post #166. The question: What is going to make the guest workers return to their home countries after their allotted time in a guest worker program is completed? The answer: NOTHING. They will stay here and be in position for the next amnesty and then eventually they will be given American citizenship. A guest worker program is simply a delayed amnesty program.
That's just part of his modus operandi. If he gets pinned down on a matter, or is asked a question that's uncomfortable for him to answer, he'll just sidestep it completely. Kind of like what we see our politicians do all the time.
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