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Well, well, well.....seems Dickie Durbin should be more concerned about his own backyard than Gitmo interrogations.....
1 posted on 06/17/2005 4:57:01 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

This is worse than Guantanamo!


2 posted on 06/17/2005 4:58:52 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: anniegetyourgun

Send the Chicago PD to Gitmo ASAP!


3 posted on 06/17/2005 4:59:48 PM PDT by Alouette (The only thing learned from history is that nobody ever learns from history.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Whats wrong with this?? Anyone from da' City knows this is Standard Operating Procedure.
4 posted on 06/17/2005 5:02:38 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude
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To: AmishDude; RightWhale; Miss Marple; JeanS; SittinYonder

ping


5 posted on 06/17/2005 5:03:50 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
"False" confessions? Well, it's like Justice Scalia once said: "They probably did something!"
9 posted on 06/17/2005 5:08:37 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Well, well, well.....seems Dickie Durbin should be more concerned about his own backyard than Gitmo interrogations.....

Well Dickie Durbin ,What say you?

10 posted on 06/17/2005 5:09:02 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (I hate Hurricane Season!)
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To: anniegetyourgun
"Those poor criminals." This kind of lament sounds a little bit too much like ACLU whining. Let's worry about the victims of crime before getting too caught-up in how the perpetrators are treated.
11 posted on 06/17/2005 5:09:02 PM PDT by Now_is_The_Time
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To: anniegetyourgun

No wonder the Chicago masters are afraid of the servants owning guns.


12 posted on 06/17/2005 5:09:54 PM PDT by labette (If only common sense would be more common..)
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To: anniegetyourgun

It should be emphasized that torture will cause a person to say anything. So, they'll confess. But if you want to know where the next al Qaeda operation will be, no amount of torture will worm it out of them if they don't know.


13 posted on 06/17/2005 5:10:16 PM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "Bravo" -- EODTIM69; "Very good!" -- pepperdog)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Thread with similar theme.
14 posted on 06/17/2005 5:10:19 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Senators should demand Durbin respond to this article on the Senate floor.


17 posted on 06/17/2005 5:11:09 PM PDT by yoswif
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To: anniegetyourgun

LOL. Reminds me of a story about a log in your eye and a splinter in your neighbor's ...


24 posted on 06/17/2005 5:24:12 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: anniegetyourgun

And they gave us Opra!


28 posted on 06/17/2005 6:05:42 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
seems Dickie Durbin should be more concerned about his own backyard than Gitmo interrogations

Seriously !

The islamotrash in Gitmo have it better than the boys doing time in the super max joint at Marion IL.

29 posted on 06/17/2005 6:09:06 PM PDT by Freebird Forever (Imagine if islam controlled the internet.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

He pulls a knife, you pull a gun.
He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue.
That's the Chicago way!

30 posted on 06/17/2005 6:44:15 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I don't know about "false" but the CPD has never been that concerned with niceties particularly when cop killers were invovled.


32 posted on 06/17/2005 9:41:17 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
All said and done, Chicago is a great place to live. It appears clean to me. People who come to visit always remark on how clean the place looks. And the crime is down. Now there are probably some city folks that do things the old fashioned way. But I have never seen a more livable city.
35 posted on 06/17/2005 9:52:21 PM PDT by poinq
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To: anniegetyourgun
I am unfortunately from Illinois. It is well known that Chicago homicide detectives have used phone books to bash suspects over the head until they confess. Often times the phone book is soaked in water to make it heavier. Nice gestapo style tactics. "We don't know if you are the n----a that did it, be we know you dun' something".


36 posted on 06/17/2005 9:58:24 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
[ Chicago's Dirty Secret ]

Not only does, what happens in Chicago not stay in Chicago..
They vote on it, many times.. and sell it as Moonbat guano..
to people that believe Al Gore is smart..

37 posted on 06/17/2005 10:40:16 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: anniegetyourgun; hsalaw; Alouette; ThreePuttinDude; Stump; null and void; Luddite Patent Counsel; ..

The Chicago police threatened to shoot their family dog unless they let the police in to search for and confiscate their firearms

by Michael D. Robbins, FraudFactor.com, June 18, 2005


A number of years ago, I was contacted by a mixed-race couple living in Chicago who were desperately seeking help, including an attorney referral, to defend against charges of violating Chicago's gun control law.

The husband was black and his wife was white. He worked the night shift as a computer operator. A street gang was harassing and threatening his wife while he was away at work. Both the black man and his white wife were ordinary nonviolent citizens with no criminal record or history.


The gang members used the Chicago police to disarm their intended victims

The gang members used the Chicago police to disarm their intended victims by falsely reporting that the man threatened them with a handgun. The gang members did not know if the man or his wife owned any firearms, but the police would find out for them and disarm their intended victims if they were armed.

The Chicago police were more interested in disarming this black working man than in protecting him and his wife from the gang members.

The police showed up at his door without a search warrant and threatened to shoot the family dog if he did not let them in to search for and confiscate all of their firearms. They did not have children and their dog was like a child to them.

To save the life of their dog, they let the Chicago police officers in to their residence. The police then said they must show them where all of their firearms are hidden, or they will shoot the family dog. They led the police to where they kept their two self-defense handguns. One belonged to him and the other to his wife.


The Chicago police charged the black man for his white wife's handgun

The police arrested the black husband, and charged him with two violations - one for possession of his own handgun and the second charge for possession of the handgun that actually belonged to his white wife. Both handguns were purchased legally outside Chicago city limits.

The wife was put in greater danger from the gang members after being disarmed by the police on behalf of the gang members, and while her husband was under arrest in police custody.

The police had no interest in the criminal activities of the gang members. They were only interested in an otherwise law-abiding black man who owned a self-defense handgun when the police would not protect his family, and who violated Chicago's dangerous gun control law which was selectively enforced against minorities by Chicago's Democrat political machine.

When I get some time, I will find my file on the plight of this couple and post an article on the subject at FraudFactor.com.


Why many politicians support gun control

On a related subject, I was told explicitly the reason why many politicians who support restrictive gun control laws do so. I was explaining to a politician in California in a face-to-face discussion that firearm laws should should target only criminals and should not target, punish, and harass law-abiding citizens. He responded, "Some people should not have guns. You cannot trust the ni--ers with guns!" I was highly offended, as were the others with me who witnessed this conversation.

Another reason that soft-on-crime Democrat politicians support gun control is they are using it to try to steal the crime issue from the Republicans, and to falsely claim to voters they being tough-on-crime.

I have more information on this here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1414920/posts?page=50#50

One of the reasons there is so much violent crime in black communities, typically in cities controlled and mismanaged by Democrat political machines, is because the more restrictive gun control laws in these cities increase violent crime by shifting the balance of power to favor criminals over ordinary citizens, and by destroying the deterrent and crime control effects of armed citizens.

 - FraudFactor.com

   Support redistricting reform to end gerrymandering and achieve better government.

40 posted on 06/18/2005 2:56:28 AM PDT by FraudFactor.com (Support redistricting reform to end gerrymandering and achieve more honest and responsive government)
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