Posted on 06/16/2005 9:43:44 AM PDT by stlnative
FR Natalee Holloway Threads...
Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1
Aruba Info...
Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif
Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif
San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif
Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)
Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif
Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)
Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/
Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html
Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html
Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/
Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923
FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
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Interview With Our Own “DASH” on Aruba trip and Natalee Holloway, Part I
June 19th, 2005 by Scared Monkeys -->
For those of you not familiar with Scared Monkey’s Discussion Forum and comment section, “Dash” have been gracing our pages for over two weeks now commenting and answering questions of the many readers of Scared Monkeys. She is one of the two Mountain Brook, AL teens who appeared on the O’Reilly Factor this past week portrayed as an exclusive. If that was an exclusive, I am not sure what one would call our all access pass we have been privileged to have to Dash. We thank Dash in taking the time to doing an interview with us in hopes of clearing up many questions that either have not been asked or are being reported inaccurately.
We are proud to offer Dash in an unlimited format to offer her side of the story. Dash is a friend of Natalee Holloway’s, went on the Aruba trip and was in Carlos & Charlie’s the night of Natalee’s disappearance.
The following is Part I of our interview with “DASH” in her own words, unedited:
Red: Did the chaperone’s fly back on the same flight as the students?
DASH: Yes, the “chaperone’s” were with us at all times… in fact, I sat by a chaperon on the plane! They were with us on ALL flights and on the bus from Birmingham
to Atlanta and the bus from the airport to the hotel and back. Any allegations that the “chaperone’s” took private jets are completely false… the family took a
private jet to Aruba after Natalee was reported missing. This information has been severely mis-reported.
Red: Did you all fly on one charter fight or was there two with students & chaperone’s on each?
DASH: There were two flights due to the fact that there were so many students going on the trip. However, we were broken up in different groups of STUDENTS…
chaperone’s were with BOTH groups at all times, looking out for ALL students.
Red: Describe Natalee Holloway. What made her popular? Why did people like her so much? Why would leaving with these guys been out of character?
DASH: Natalee is the sweetest person! She has worked VERY hard in school, is a respectable girl, and really is just a total doll! She does volunteer work frequently
and is a not only charitable, but a truly compassionate girl. She’s also been very involved in the school, not only participating in honor societies
(she was an officer for Mu Alpha Theta, the Math Honor Society) but also was a member of our school’s dance team, the Dorians. She is kind to all people and is
truly loved by the entire community. Any attacks on her character are totally unfounded… it is VERY out of character for her to get in a car with these
individuals, which is why this whole situation is such a shock. I’m unsure as to whether or not we know the full circumstances surrounding her “decision.” She’s a
genuinely good person, and I think that’s why so many people can identify with her and are so interested in her case… as Beth said, “She’s everyone’s daughter.”
Red: Describe what was explained to you as to what the roles of the chaperone’s was supposed to be?
DASH: I would probably say the better name for the “chaperone’s” would probably be “travel aids” or “adult volunteers” as their job only included helping keep up with passports and being around in case of a medical emergency. (This was explained at length at pre-trip meetings and also given to students and parents of the students in writing in advance.) However, I’d like to mention that they actually, due to their own good-heartedness, went above and beyond for us, making daily checks to ensure that we were all accounted for and enjoying the trip, keeping drug-dealers from bothering us, and also accompanying us on snorkel trips and other vacation activities. Any blame placed on these volunteers is completely unmerited. They did
their job, and then some!
Red: How many people shared a room at the Holiday Inn.
DASH: Different people had a different number of roommates, ranging from two to a room to four to a room. (Natalee had two other roommates, as did I.)
Red: Have you been questioned by the police or FBI? (If yes, you don’t have to say what they asked or what you said if you were told not to.)
DASH: Yes, the FBI has been very responsive. They never told me personally not to speak about the case, nor have the family. Obviously, if my discussing any of the trip was against the wishes of anyone close to the case, I would refrain from doing so.
Red: DASH is there anything else you would like to add?
Yes, Why did the students choose to go to Carlos & Charlie’s?
I feel that a lot of people have the wrong idea about Carlos and Charlie’s. It is not a seedy bar as some have assumed. In fact, it is a very tourist-oriented
place. I went there during the day with some friends and we bought things from the gift shop and took pictures in a photo cut-out. (That’s the standing board that has a picture on it and holes for you to stick your face through. They are common at many
tourist-friendly locations.) During the day, it is a friendly restaurant. At night, it’s not a “wild” party place, but it is a fun atmosphere in which you can dance and relax. Also, I’d like to mention that the reason we decided to go there in the first place
(some students had gone every night since arriving) was due to the fact that our bus driver who was acting as a pseudo-tour guide for us mentioned what a
tourist-friendly place it is and urged us to go.
Morning Update, Sunday June 19th
June 19th, 2005 by Scared Monkeys -->
Just got going, it is Fathers day so say a prayer for Natalee’s Father and Step Father. Natalee’s Mom has been leading in the news, but both of these men must be suffering even more today.
Here is a quick review, we will keep looking for more information throughout the day.
Yahoo News
A judge on Saturday ordered the teenage son of a prominent justice official and two of his friends to stay in jail for at least another week while investigators search for clues in the disappearance of a young Alabama woman.
A disc jockey on an Aruban tourist party boat who also has been detained in the case was to appear before a judge Monday, the attorney general’s spokeswoman Mariaine Croes said as the search for 18-year-old Natalee Holloway neared the end of three weeks.
Under Dutch law, which Aruba follows as a Dutch protectorate, authorities can detain individuals for up to 116 days without filing formal charges. A judge must review the case after the first 10 days, and then periodically after that.
A Local Birmingham alternative paper has a great analysis of the Twitty/Holloway initial arrival on the island.
The Black and White
As flyers were posted around the island, the search for Natalee began in earnest. Efforts concentrated around the hotel and at the lighthouse on the north end of the island, where Van Der Sloot, 18-year old Satish Kalpoe, and his brother, 21-year old Deepak, said they had taken Natalee after leaving a local downtown nightclub. As an avalanche of leads and anonymous tips flowed in, friends of the family mobilized into an investigative task force armed with cell phones, two-way radios, and a fleet of rental cars. Psychics, prevalent on the island, began demanding the attention of the family. Each told family associates that “she is in a dark place, and near water.” One claimed that Natalee’s soul was sitting next to her. “Ask her what the name of her dog is,” a family associate asked. “She is crying,” she told him, “she is too upset to talk.” During that early period of the family’s investigation, attempts to get the police involved were unsuccessful. According to a friend of the family, the Police Commissioner actually suggested that they go to Carlos & Charlie’s (the bar Natalee disappeared from) on Wednesday night. “It is Ladies Night,” he said, “and I am sure she will be there.”
As the search became more desperate and the tips became more bizarre, missions into the island’s darkest barrios, including the red-light district and assorted crack houses, were orchestrated. The editor of the island newspaper informed the family that a group of drug dealers were holding Natalee for a $10,000 ransom (an odd amount considering that the posted reward was in excess of $50,000). A late-night rendezvous between the drug dealers and family friends was arranged, and after a wild series of events an American girl was rescued by the police, who called to report that “they are 98-percent sure they have Natalee.” The family raced to the police station only to discover that the female in custody had dark hair, brown eyes, weighed about 130 pounds, and looked to be about 45 years old. Natalee had blonde hair, blue eyes, weighed 110 pounds, and was 18 years old. That was the first of many letdowns and false leads.
Your post made me howl.
Hon, this is the equivalent of 24, The Wire and The Shield all in one with a touch of the Godfather and The French Connection.
All the players are attracting attention,,,parents, lawyers, drug runners, suicides,out of wedlock children, white slavery, Casa Nostra, Gambino family, Narcoterrorists, Bin Laden, Hezbollah, date rape drugs,casinos, money laundering, chinese gangs.
This is like a crack induced soap opera.
One of the boys should start talking now that they can see what they life in prison is going to be like if they don't. I'm thinking plea bargaining here.
VDS's parents have everything to lose if he confesses. His Mother is a teacher at the International private School, his father is in the Judicial system and the whole family has to maintain the image of an Aruban Cleaver Family.
OTOH, even Vito Colucci, Former detective speaking on Fox, is acknowledging he has hope she was abducted and off the island.
I'm on and off the forum..BBL
Doubtful, everyone does laundry, especially after 3 weeks! lol
Let's see, they mentioned last night that a man was found in the cemetary, partially decapitated. Blood in his house. They moved Deepak?? to the prison? Or are they all there now?
Otherwise known as a normal day on a Caribbean Island. LOL!
Yeah, that shouldn't be overlooked.
Can lysol be used to knock someone out? Isn't lysol toxic or poisonous? What would injesting that do to a person? A small amount.
Well! Thank goodness they let the mr go home last night so he could coach his wife for this mornings events!
For days you've all provided for some interesting reading, to say the least. For what it's worth, here's what I'm thinking:
Maybe Mr. and now Mrs. Van der Sloot are "being questioned" to give them a chance to come up with a plan for their son's future? Perhaps, they have been called in, told about what evidence has mounted, and have been told the scenario that the Aruban officials are in i.e., the issue of island tourism versus the future of a son of a pre-judge and friend. With all the government corruption down there, I can see how the lead investigators would pull in the parents to help them "think of something" to help take the focus off their son, but if the kid is into this neck-deep, Aruban hands are tied. Maybe this is preparing the parents for events to come very soon.
It is sickening to think that Aruban officials are more concerned with not wrecking the future of their friend's son and the Aruban economy than Mrs. Twitty's daughter.
Right, but if your son comes home with blood on his clothes, and his appearance shows signs of a struggle . . . as a mom, I think she would ask what happened. No? And if she did see him in such a state, well, then, they've got themselfves a witness.
Yeah, though I think that was just for show. jmo
!!!! Hasibokos.com has noted a lot of speculation and theories trough the media (radio, internet and tv) of what may have happened to Natalee Holloway. We’ve also been getting e-mails with interesting stories. You may have noted that we don’t/rarely speculate. We try to report only actual events and if we post unconfirmed facts, we try to do so when the reports are at least 99.9% certain and in those cases we inform also that the information has not been confirmed. We don't dedicate attention to the, in some cases very interesting, (conspiracy) theories out there because this is simply not our objective here on Hasibokos.com. Also we don' t think that speculating'on this case is going to help solve anything. We’ve been hearing so much stories: Sex trade (to South America), insurance fraud (family to receive 5 million on her dead), murdered, raped (then), buried (alive), drowned, disappeared willingly to start new life)..and so forth …The only story we’ve have not heard (yet) is that Natalee Holloway has been abducted by aliens. This is why we try to stick to the facts, because if we start speculating, there will be no end in sight
LOL!
My thoughts exactly.
absolut
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:25 pm
A growing theory in the news media (unreported) is that Steve is being held on obstruction of justice charges or the equivilent.
It is possible that the parents may be defending themselves at this point from similar charges.
I feel that a lot of people have the wrong idea about Carlos and Charlie’s. It is not a seedy bar as some have assumed.
That's funny! Even the locals that live there say it is seedy!
Can't help wondering who this is.
Call Geraldo! LOL!
You forgot the psychic charlatans comining out of the woodwork to prey on Natalee's family.
Meant to ask this before. Anyone notice how out of the many pics of Sloot, he seldom has a smile. Maybe its just the pics I remember.
Where is that goofball anyway? They would not let him do the Holloway case on his own show yesterday, hehehe. I sure hope they are not sending that showoff back to Iraq.
Well, in 1998 Amy Bradley (http://www.tggweb.com/amybradley/) was 23. So she would be about 30 now.
I hope whoever the girl they found was—that she will be reunited with her family soon.
Has anyone seen a picture of this missing Sergio Gomez on the tickle site?
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