Posted on 06/16/2005 9:43:44 AM PDT by stlnative
FR Natalee Holloway Threads...
Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1
Aruba Info...
Full Aruba Island Maps
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Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
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San Nicolas Street Map
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Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
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Aruba Beach Location Maps
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Aruba Township Location Map
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Aruba Diving Location Maps
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Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
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Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
Aruba White/Yellow Pages
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Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
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OMG. Great find, cg.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. I get the distinct impression that the general public in Aruba is thinking, "Lady, this ain't the U.S.A. Be careful what you say around here."
And your point is...???
The link takes a long time to read but it is incredible.
And the info about Rudy Croes and his going to meeting in Turkey with a bunch of left wingers. And maybe drug related.
Sorry. The date of the article was March 8, 2005. Very recent.
Poor little Natalee stumbled onto a very bad thing.
The Dutch kid while responsible for Nat is a small cog in this story and that is the rub.
No wonder they all look terrified. No wonder his father is scared.
A kid running wild on Aruba is so small compared to the criminal enterprise of global proportions there.
Another name to look out for is Mansur, big family, powerful, possible ties to Casa Nostra. I keep waiting for them to appear.
And Operation Wiseguy,,I am going to google it, it was the key to all the drug, mob stuff down there.
Why do I feel like an FBI agent.
My only hope is that if the Casa N is involved and she is alive, she will be returned so they can shut the door on this.
It is odd, but I have a strange faith in the CN,,they want to protect their huge business more than they want a girl dead.
If she isn't found soon, this is going to explode on them.
It's looking more and more like this was planned in advance, that's for sure. Good find up there on the thread, btw.
I would bet the CN would be willing to make a deal with someone. "Look, we'll give her back if we can be assured that'll be the end of it."
I am wearing my feelings on my cast, sorry.
I just found a link on operatio wiseguy and the Caruana/Cuntrera CN family, the ones in Aruba and guess what. Caruana, the big CN honcho, the one who bought up Aruba,,,he is the brother in law of Pablo Escobar!! He started out in Canada which is referred to as a lab for organized crime, and then went to Venezuela and Aruba.
suspects are safer in the pokey now. aruban authorities are probably being threatened hourly.
Natalee didn't stumble onto anything. Sloot dragged her into it.
I thought from the beginning that somehow there was an entanglement with a large criminal element - either by "accident" or intentionally on the part of van der Sloot. I think it was more an accident, or some stupid ignorance of who/what he was dealing with. His actions, however serious (or trivial if he did nothing intentional) they might be in relation to Natalee's disappearance, might well be the rock that brings down the giant.
Think what drug running, mob traffic-ing and disappearing tourists would do to the economy there. The larger play in containing the stor(ies) and keeping the focus on JVDS.
There was a abig guy named Mansur on FNC last night. He is the one that reported that Sloot's father wouldn't allowed to see his son.
What I meant by "trivial" in my above comment is that VDS may just have innocently taken Natalee to a party for her last night with him. Bad people there might have forced her away, or drugged her, or something...and threatened VDS if he said anything. I am not excusing him, but the possibility of him getting into a pit of vipers unknowingly could exist. A cartel of drug operations or sex traffickers could have a very strong, frightening impact on a teen who just might have been a dumb kid in this situation. Just a thought. I am not exonerating anyone, only considering other possibilities.
WOW! Good job on connecting the dots from Rudy Croes to the Sicilian Mafia!
In the beginning of this investigation, there was a policeman on who emphasized that the investigative police and the Ministry of Justice are not connected in any way. That the investigators were independent of the Justice Ministry of Aruba. I wondered why he was being so emphatic about this.
Anyway, I'm glad our FBI is in place there in Aruba to oversee certain aspects of this case, with all its tortuous pathways.
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