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The Charlotte Observer has outdone itself. An old gag had it that a liberal newspaper -- and the Observer certainly qualifies -- announced the ultimate cataclysm with the headline "World to be destroyed; women and minorities to suffer most." Increasingly, actual Observer articles are resembling the joke. On a daily basis, for decades now, our fishwrapper can be counted on to hammer home how much minorities are mistreated and discriminated against.

God forbid that anyone suggest that the students who were suspended were at fault. Heavens, no. The fault lies in the cultural insensitivity of whites (who, by the way, are now a minority in the Charlotte-Mecklenburg School System).

You see, honky, in da hood it be cool to call your teacher a ho if she disses you, ya know what I'm sayin?

1 posted on 06/12/2005 7:34:55 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina
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The obvious answer has escaped them.

Suspend a whitey if he looks at you funny. If they inhale too deeply, kick them out. That should help even out the disparity < /yes, sarcasm intended>


2 posted on 06/12/2005 7:36:58 AM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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Why are Charlotte's black students suspended more often than whites?

Incredibly (in a sane world) the article would at least raise the question as to whether those suspended students DESERVED suspension.

But alas, we do not live in a sane world, therefore the OBVIOUS is never discussed, as it isn't very PC.

3 posted on 06/12/2005 7:38:06 AM PDT by Guillermo (42% of suicide bombers in Iraq are Saudi and Bush continues to lick their boots)
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Black students talking back to teachers may not be a sign of disrespect, says diversity consultant Tim Wise, but can show engagement, as when churchgoers respond to ministers.

Myers Park's Bill Anderson called the gap "absolutely not" acceptable. He wants to expand training for teachers to better understand the culture of poverty, which he believes plays a role.

How stupid can these clowns be?

The problem is NOT the teachers. As pointed out earlier in the article:

"A lot of children don't show behavior appropriate for school," she says. "We have kids who haven't learned that you're respectful to teachers, you don't curse in class, you don't get up and walk around."

The lefties are not helping the underprivileged by sanctioning antisocial behavior. Doing that only perpetuates their plight.

5 posted on 06/12/2005 7:42:39 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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Sounds like the crime rate.


7 posted on 06/12/2005 7:43:45 AM PDT by Unicorn
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Here's a similar question; what are the minority/majority expulsion numbers? I. e., How many of the reported 30% blacks expelled are expelled more than once?


8 posted on 06/12/2005 7:44:57 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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In my observations as a teacher in a black majority school district for nine years, I would say it is because the black kids misbehave more often.


9 posted on 06/12/2005 7:45:22 AM PDT by Ahban
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"If you back down, you're going to get your butt whupped."

They won't get their butt whupped for bad behavior in school, though, and therein lies the problem.

13 posted on 06/12/2005 7:53:58 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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Black students talking back to teachers may not be a sign of disrespect, says diversity consultant Tim Wise, but can show engagement, as when churchgoers respond to ministers.

I didn't know standing up in church on Sunday and calling the minister a "punk-ass b*tch" or a "motherf*cker" was "engagement."

16 posted on 06/12/2005 7:54:52 AM PDT by rickmichaels (God Bless America, Land That I Love)
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So the students who were taught correct behavior prior to Kindergarten are now supposed to suffer by having troublemakers in the classroom to disrupt their education to satisfy these lefties. I dont think so. Maybe some kids need a little extra attention in the early grades to teach them right from wrong.


17 posted on 06/12/2005 7:56:52 AM PDT by Dave S
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Yes. I am a public high school teacher. This "hip-hop" culture where young black men associate themselves with criminals and gang members is killing them. It's killing them academically and socially. In my school, we don't allow the F word in the hallways; when it's heard the kid (usually black) is written up and often suspended. What else are we to do? If we allow that kind of language the parents of the kids who don't use it will pull their kids out and send them to private schools, as maybe they should. As long as young black men have gangbangers as their heros and prefer to bring $150.00 sneakers to class tied around their necks instead of pencils and paper, this is going to go on.


18 posted on 06/12/2005 7:57:10 AM PDT by kjo
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Myers Park's Bill Anderson called the gap "absolutely not" acceptable.

Mr. President, we cannot allow a mineshaft gap!

20 posted on 06/12/2005 7:59:02 AM PDT by csvset
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Jus' gotta hab quotas, it jes' ain't fayuh no uther way.

Those in the best position to fix this on going problem, are too busy making excuses and blaiming everything and everyone else, to face up to and work on the problem.

The only racism present in this situation, is the raciests who prefer to blame every shortcoming by members of their own race on imagined racism by members of another race.


25 posted on 06/12/2005 8:03:56 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (From their slimy left bank puddle, the froggy Dems still croak" Duh........ We da mainstream, we da)
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I wonder if there is a correlation to single parent household?


27 posted on 06/12/2005 8:05:30 AM PDT by the_daug
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He wants to expand training for teachers to better understand the culture of poverty, which he believes plays a role.

What kind of crap is that? And if the teacher 'understand(s) the culture of poverty', then she has to put up with bad behavior from some of the kids, but not others? I think that would be called discrimination.

I think the reason behind a higher percentage of black children being suspended is the same as why there is a higher percentage of black males in prison.
28 posted on 06/12/2005 8:05:54 AM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Hoping to be a California Vigil Antie for the Minuteman Project)
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If any of the keepers of the NC Ping List are not in church at this hour (like the undersigned infidel), he or she may wish to send this out.


29 posted on 06/12/2005 8:07:12 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (What happens in Waxhaw STAYS in Waxhaw.)
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All these kids need is a father that takes his belt off and whips their asses with it.


33 posted on 06/12/2005 8:12:13 AM PDT by BobS
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Indiana University's "The Color of Discipline" scientifically adjusted for socioeconomic factors and still found blacks suspended more often -- and for more discretionary reasons.

So, we have a study that adjusted for factors of social and economic bias. So where are the raw numbers. In other words how many of the black suspensions (other factors being controlled) are because of discretionary calls by the teacher. (and how many teachers are black?). This is a flawed study like so many examined by Thomas Sowell in his book "Vision of the Anointed". The problem is that the study started with the vision that blacks would be discriminated against in school and proceeded from there.

One thing that should be mentioned is that teachers, as a class, work very hard on their prejudices. I had a bias against kids who refused to turn in homework for example. I would never let a racial bias affect what I did as I tried to understand every student. But some kids work harder, some kids let you know they are trying to get it but can't. Some kids come after school or during lunch for the extra help that was always offered. Etc. And the teacher tries to behave equally toward every student, and tries to be fair when deciding the grades at the end of every quarter. But I would have to argue that disruptive behavior hurts all the kids for the sake one one or two who can't behave. Sorry, classes need discipline and kids need to come to school with this one understanding -- behave or out you go.

Finally it must be noted that this article casts dispersions on a fine -- usually left thinking group -- the teachers themselves. If this is a left on left problem, maybe we should let them duke it out. I for one would love to see the teachers union take on the elites who put out shoddy research like this. The anointed Vs. the anointed.

34 posted on 06/12/2005 8:23:28 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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"Blacks suspended [from Charlotte schools] far more than whites"

The reason is behavior and not race. The few times that I got mine busted for bad behavior in school, I got it busted again when I got home. No questions on my part concerning fairness were entertained.

35 posted on 06/12/2005 8:23:41 AM PDT by davisfh
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they get suspended more for the same reason they go to jail more, because they commit more crime.

white males on the other hand account for nearly 100% of mass murder convictions for the same reason... because more white men commit these types of crimes.

who knows why, but to blame every oddity you notice between ethnic groups on racism is absurd.
36 posted on 06/12/2005 8:30:06 AM PDT by Nyboe (From God we receive both our freedom and morality. A Godless society will have neither.)
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But they want to look deeper, they say.

However, they do not want to look deeply enough to find the TRUE root of the problem, which is that blacks violate school policies at a rate four times that of whites, and the violations are more egregious on average than those of white students.

39 posted on 06/12/2005 8:38:31 AM PDT by IronJack
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