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Expert: Many Promote Homosexual Parenting With Poor Reasons, Faulty Premise
AgapePress ^ | June 9, 2005 | Mary Rettig

Posted on 06/09/2005 9:36:05 PM PDT by scripter

It's a biological given that homosexuals cannot reproduce; however, many are getting children by hiring surrogates. One professor at Marquette University says these manufactured families are just an effort to "normalize" homosexuality.

Dr. Christopher Wolfe is a professor of political science and an expert on homosexuality and American public life. He says some homosexual couples really do want to adopt or have children because they desire a family; but those who do, he contends, are in the minority.

Wolfe says indications of this leads many analysts to suspect what he believes to be true, "that the big push for same-sex parenting has much less to do with the desire of homosexuals, generally, for children than it does with a desire that they have to not be different -- to not be singled out and treated differently."

For most homosexuals, Wolfe contends, the desire to become parents is really about legitimizing their type of relationship and denying the abnormality of it, including the inability to produce children. "They want to have the same rights that everybody else in society has," he says.

The Marquette University professor says homosexual activists try to stack their arguments in favor of homosexual parenting by citing studies that claim there is no noticeable difference between the children of homosexual couples and heterosexual couples. However, he notes, much of the evidence they cite comes from people who were looking for a particular outcome.

On the other hand, Wolfe points out, "If you look at a number of different first-rate social science articles that have approached this subject -- one is by anti-gay-parenting authors Robert Lerner and Althea K. Nagai -- they analyze all these studies about same-sex parenting and show that all of those studies are really defective." In fact, the professor adds, two pro-homosexual-parenting researchers actually point out in their study that children of homosexual parents do turn out differently from children parented by a mother and a father.

Rejecting the assumption that no differences exist, Wolfe says the two researchers investigated and went on to conclude that children of homosexual parents are more likely to be depressed and more likely to display homosexual tendencies as they mature.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: adoption; gay; homosexual; homosexualadoption; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; lesbian
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To: scripter

I generally leave the gays alone, because the vast majority of the ones I've known in my life have absolutely no use for the activist-gay-agenda types, they just want to be left alone, they mind their own business and want others to do the same. In fact, they all dislike the activists.

But when it comes to the activist types I can get absolutely RABID........and I will and I have. I am a firm believer that all children should have a mother and father all living under the same roof. I realize things happen and divorces do occur - but that should be the exception not the rule.



21 posted on 06/09/2005 10:31:28 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Gabz
Most people don't realize it, but I have the same position as you do regarding homosexuals. I do take it a step further... If homosexuals are happy as they are that's perfectly okay with me - it's their life and they have the freedom to do as they desire.

But if a homosexual wants out of the lifestyle, I'm 100% pro-choice on the issue and will do all I can to help them with their desire to leave the lifestyle.

This is a wonderful book I wish all parents would read: A Parent's Guide to Preventing Homosexuality

22 posted on 06/09/2005 10:39:01 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter

I can imagine the "daughters" of this "couple" won't be saying many of the same things in the years come that they have in the past.

I remember them doing a CBS Sunday morning piece about gay adoption and it had to have been at least 6 years ago - and both little girls were wearing anti-smoker T-shirts.

I'm just thankful I've never had to deal with him on radio, TV, or in person - only online or in newprint and from long distances.........I mean really, wht kind of role model could he possibly be to a child when he gets a letter to the editor printed in a Delaware paper, claiming he lives in Delaware, when he is actually living in France at the time?

That's what we are dealing with when it comes to the gay-agenda activists - their word is accepted as gospel.


23 posted on 06/09/2005 10:45:34 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Clearly states what we all know. Children used as pawns, to prop up an empty, false life. Or even worse.

If two men or two women could "have" their own children, Mother Nature would have arranged it like that. But she didn't. Nature and nature's Author have arranged that it takes one MAN and one WOMAN to creat a baby, because it takes one man and one woman to properly raise that baby.

The sad evidence of what happens when people deny this truth is everywhere.

Let me know if you want on/off this pinglist.


24 posted on 06/09/2005 10:46:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: scripter

Bump


25 posted on 06/09/2005 10:50:53 PM PDT by MitchellC
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To: scripter

You and I are in total agreement.

Thanks for the link - it sounds like a bok I will be looking into purchasing.


26 posted on 06/09/2005 10:55:10 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: scripter

In another thread, Rosie said she made her "wife" stop breastfeeding because she was jealous. SHE wanted to bond, too. The heck with the kid's wellbeing.

I have to say, many homosexuals I've met have been quite selfish. I don't care what anyone says, I've never met one who has seemed capable of a giving, selfless relationship. The ones I knew were always carrying tons of emotional baggage.

The lesbian nun who died recently had her son attend the funeral with his boyfriend. Who would do that to a child?

By the way, did anyone watch, "showdog moms and dads"? They had a gay couple who treated their dogs like dolls. The poor things had no freedom to be dogs. They were nasty, biting little things, that were always being dressed up in doll clothes.

Watching that, I knew there are poor children around being treated by gay men the same way.


27 posted on 06/09/2005 11:17:54 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: scripter

bump


28 posted on 06/10/2005 4:19:24 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: Nightshift

ping


29 posted on 06/10/2005 4:20:04 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: scripter; Lindykim; little jeremiah; SweetCaroline; ItsOurTimeNow; John O; longtermmemmory; ...

The Marquette University professor says homosexual activists try to stack their arguments in favor of homosexual parenting by citing studies that claim there is no noticeable difference between the children of homosexual couples and heterosexual couples. However, he notes, much of the evidence they cite comes from people who were looking for a particular outcome...


Documentation posted here.

See also:

An excerpt from "When Activism Masquerades as Science: Potential Consequences of Recent APA Resolutions"

An excerpt from "GAY ORTHODOXY AND ACADEMIC HERESY"

30 posted on 06/10/2005 6:13:43 AM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: tutstar

I would be curious to see how it breaks down along family types. Reason would say the experience of a child with two mommies would be significantly different from the one with two daddies. Lesbians and gay males have almost polar opposite lifestyles and values so its an important distinction when sifting the data.

I've always tried to live by the outlook that its not my place to judge my neighbors choices but now that I'm a parent myself its become difficult to maintain such a dispassionate stance. Spending time out in the playgrounds and around the neighborhood with the local pack of kids has made one crisis very clear to me, the father shortage. Not only are they drawn to me but they exhibit enough issues to keep a team of shrinks busy for decades. From low self esteem to lack of respect and everything in between, I know that they are innocents trapped in a situation they didnt create. I do my best to help them where I can, I teach them to ride bikes, set up team games, break up scuffles and so on. Its amazing how readily these kids respond to a father figure, I get better behavior out of them than their own mothers do. It just breaks my heart to see them growing up like that and it makes me furious at their absent fathers. Sorry to rant off the topic a bit but I think missing fathers are a far bigger crisis for our culture and I wish there was a similar pushback against the divorce culture.


31 posted on 06/10/2005 6:22:05 AM PDT by planetpatrol
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To: planetpatrol
Sorry to rant off the topic a bit but I think missing fathers are a far bigger crisis for our culture and I wish there was a similar pushback against the divorce culture.

You're actually hitting the nail on the head. The root cause of many cultural issues today are absent fathers. In regards to homosexuality, read:

How Might Homosexuality Develop? Putting the Pieces Together
A Parent's Guide to Preventing Homosexuality
In 2004, People Can Change surveyed the members of its online support groups to determine what they perceived to have been the most significant causes of their developing homosexual feelings in their own lives. Checkout the survey here:
Perceptions Amoung Men With Unwanted Same-Sex Attractions (SSA) of the Factors Contributing to the Development of Their Homosexuals Feelings
The more we read about homosexuality, the more we see a great responsibility rests with fathers.
32 posted on 06/10/2005 7:37:43 AM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter

I wish the MSM (including FNC) would cover THESE stories instead the usual prohomo stuff. (even oreily is pro-homo. must be the harvard.)


33 posted on 06/10/2005 7:39:48 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: scripter
After reading the thread I see that the homosexual agenda angles are all pretty well covered.

This frees me to remark, a Marquette University Professor that gets it!?. WOW I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.

34 posted on 06/10/2005 8:50:44 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

Bump for great comments and links.


35 posted on 06/10/2005 10:29:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: Gabz

"..their type of relationship and denying the abnormality of it, including the inability to produce children. "

I don't think anybody said that homosexuals can't produce children. To be accurate, homosexual COUPLES can't produce children. Homosexual RELATIONSHIPS can't produce children. Homosexual INTERCOURSE can't produce children. Due to the reproductiv e structure of our species.


36 posted on 07/02/2005 10:00:49 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Hm. That;s queer...)
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