Posted on 06/04/2005 10:33:08 AM PDT by freeperskickbutt
ASHINGTON - The Pentagon on Friday confirmed for the first time that a U.S. soldier deliberately kicked a Guantanamo Bay prisoner's Muslim holy book in violation of the military's rules for handling the Quran.
In other confirmed incidents, prison guards threw water balloons in a cell block, causing an unspecified number of Qurans to get wet; a guard's urine splashed on a detainee and his Quran; an interrogator stepped on a Quran during an interrogation; and a two-word obscenity was written in English on the inside cover of a Quran.
The findings are among the results of an investigation last month by Brig. Gen. Jay Hood, the commander of the detention center in Cuba, that was triggered by a Newsweek magazine report later retracted that a U.S. soldier had flushed one Guantanamo Bay detainee's Quran down a toilet.
The story stirred worldwide controversy and the Bush administration blamed it for deadly demonstrations in Afghanistan.
Last week, Hood disclosed that he had confirmed five cases of mishandling of the Quran, but he refused to provide details. Allegations of Quran desecration at Guantanamo Bay have led to anti-American passions in many Muslim nations, although Pentagon officials have insisted that the problems were relatively minor and that U.S. commanders have gone to great lengths to enable detainees to practice their religion in captivity.
Hood said last week that he found no credible evidence that a Quran was ever flushed down a toilet. He said a prisoner who was reported to have complained to an FBI agent in 2002 that a military guard threw a Quran in the toilet has since told Hood's investigators that he never witnessed any form of Quran desecration.
hehehe
hahaha, I suck at typing when I have not had my coffee.
and that was known at post 2 and 3? That was what I was commenting on. Quick draw artists and fast on the trigger wannabes. Have you been reading the comments or are you just like the others? Looking for a fight?
You know, you're real quick to defend trolls.
And with the troll that posted this thread, it was rather obvious.
You may be in denial over it, that's fine.
But when you defend trolls, it reflects rather poorly on you.
I'm not defending trolls you twit, I'm attacking impulsive reactionary posters. Buy a clue or move on.
MY stupidity?
BS, you're the one defending trolls.
And, BS you are not attacking impulsive reactionary posters.
Perhaps if you looked in the mirror.. but no.
That'd require some honesty which you don't have.
"I'm attacking impulsive reactionary posters."
By the way, that is classic troll behavior, claiming to be a hero fighting a perceived injustice that doesn't in fact exist.
Love it!
Did you see wannabe crusader's claims?
LOL!
And yes, the troll was being gleeful in his postings.
So he wasn't a benign poster as the crusading one seems to believe.
Maybe he's sad that his buddy bought it?
Is this thread still alive???
Don't be repetitious.
Don't interrupt an exchange between two other posters to repeat the same point you were corrected on before.
Don't pick on posters who have a better understanding of the situation.
Don't list every comment they make and parse every word as if you've discovered cold fusion.
Don't take ever response and generality as non-sarcastic.
Don't make personal comments about other posters when you weren't privy to their exchanges with the owner.
And don't come back to a thread to make a point which is inaccurate.
Don't attack a poster because he got the best of you on previous threads.
Don't attack a position which has been shown to be non-existent and not in question.
Don't ping your posse unless you're sure they'll back you up. You're not a leader if no one is following you.
Follow those rules and you can avoid future smack downs by your superiors and a moderator or two.
Now this thread is getting old and smelly, so be a good boy and leave quietly. I'll set a good example.............
Freeperskickubutt's post #2 required an industrial grade flame retardant suit, but post #8 required a good ground, which he didn't have.
Yuppers.
Troll defender doesn't know when to shut his mouth.
A reminder for all.........
Dear Concerned Citizen:
Thank you for your recent letter criticizing our treatment of the Taliban and Al Qaeda detainees currently held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The administration takes these matters seriously, and your opinion was heard loud and clear here in Washington. You'll be pleased to learn that, thanks to the concerns of citizens like you, we are creating the Terrorist Retraining Program, to be called the "Liberals Accept Responsibility for Killers" program, or LARK for short. In accordance with the guidelines of this new program, we have decided to place one terrorist under your personal care.
Your detainee has been selected and scheduled for transportation to your residence next Monday. Ali Mohammed Ahmed bin Mahmud is to be cared for pursuant to the standards you personally demanded in your letter of admonishment. We will conduct weekly inspections to ensure that your standards of care for Ahmed are commensurate with those you so strongly recommended in your letter.
Although Ahmed is sociopathic and extremely violent, we hope that your sensitivity to what you described as his "attitudinal problem" will help him overcome this character flaw. Perhaps you are correct in describing these problems as mere cultural differences.
Your adopted terrorist is extremely proficient in hand-to-hand combat and can extinguish human life with such simple items as a pencil or nail clippers. He is also expert at making a wide variety of explosive devices from common household products, so you may wish to keep those items locked up, unless you feel that this might offend him.
Ahmed will not wish to interact with your wife or daughters since he views females as a subhuman form of property. This is a particularly sensitive subject for him. He has been known to show violent tendencies around women who fail to comply with the dress code that he considers appropriate, but I'm sure that over time they will come to enjoy the anonymity offered by the bhurka. Just remind them that it is all part of respecting his culture and his religious beliefs.
Thanks again for your letter. We truly appreciate it when folks like you inform us of the proper way to do our job. Take good care of Ahmed and good luck!
Cordially, Don Rumsfeld.
Here's some tips: You'd better be right when you defend someone.
You aren't.
So you have to claim that you are fighting against 'reactionaries', and you aren't.
You are defending trolls, and you haven't a leg to stand on.
You search for 'nuance' and claim to be intellectual, and you are not.
You create things to attack, and when things get to hot you claim to be on the moral high ground.
Perhaps if you didn't defend trolls, your words would have some weight.
But, they're worthless and have no substance.
Heck, all his posts were rather out of place.
Especially post 16.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1416483/posts?page=16#16
Dang, bigsigh...you say some scary words...care to drop into the Undead Thread some time and get acquainted with us? We have a moat and some dungeons and even an observatory...you may want to check out the dungeons first...they are lots of fun...we have plenty of candles availble, but no flashlights...for some reason, they don't last too long down there...
He might like that.
I'm sure it will be a rather "different" experience for him
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