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Lactose intolerance linked to ancestral environment [Darwinian medicine]
Medical News Today ^ | 02 June 2005 | Staff

Posted on 06/01/2005 5:15:57 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

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Darwinian medicine. Something new to think about. Everyone be nice.

1 posted on 06/01/2005 5:15:57 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 06/01/2005 5:17:17 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Darwinian medicine.

That will be the brave new world of the 21th century.
3 posted on 06/01/2005 5:20:14 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: PatrickHenry

Most Chinese are lactose intolerant and China doesn't fit this scenario at all. So I guess Darwinianism doesn't apply to 1/5 of humanity.


4 posted on 06/01/2005 5:22:12 PM PDT by keithtoo (Howard Dean's Democratic Party: Traitors, Haters, and Vacillators)
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To: PatrickHenry

Never heard of this new medicical discipline before. My first impression is it is perilously close to Lamarckian Evolution. Guess it is time to google.


5 posted on 06/01/2005 5:23:40 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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To: PatrickHenry
I saw Darwinian medicine and I expected it to deal with treating people who used fluorescent tubes and gasoline to make light sabers.
6 posted on 06/01/2005 5:33:39 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republicans and Democrats no longer exist. There are only Fabian and revolutionary socialists.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Pure and unadulterated BS. Many peoples of equatorial Africa for centuries have had milk as a main source of their diet. Some fermented it, mixed it with cereal grains, some still today relish a mixture of cow's blood and milk, which they have drank since time immemorial.
7 posted on 06/01/2005 5:36:57 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: keithtoo

Are there any native cattle (or other milk producing animals) which were dometicated in China? If not, then ability to digest lactose wouldn't be a survival benefit. On the other hand, if you have a Germanic tribe where Johann's family can drink milk but Wilhelm's family can't, that could be the difference between living and dying during a tough year growing crops.


8 posted on 06/01/2005 5:38:03 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republicans and Democrats no longer exist. There are only Fabian and revolutionary socialists.)
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To: PatrickHenry

I don't know about all of this, but I am descended from Scottish, English, French, and German ancestors, all of whom are part of the dairying peoples, and I am lactose intolerant, as is my father, and at least one of my nieces.


9 posted on 06/01/2005 5:41:59 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: PatrickHenry

Pure and Simple B.S.

My family is from Poland, They came to America and settled in Wisconsin, owned dairy farms. If I drink a glass of milk I cramp and (other things I would rather not mention) for days.


10 posted on 06/01/2005 5:44:48 PM PDT by Xenophobic Alien (OK gang, you know the rules, no humping, no licking, no sniffing hineys.)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis; PatrickHenry

1. Fermented milk products have had the lactose removed.

2. Lots of people are lactose intolerant, most specifically Asians. The biochemistry is simple. As an infact the enzyme beta-galactosidase operates to split lactose to glucose and galactose. In adult life a new enzyme appears, lactase that also cleaves lactose. The beta-glalctosidase levels drop. People who are lactose intolerant don't make much lactase, but the bacteria in their intestinal tracts love it, so it gives you intestinal problems.

Bugs 1, people 0


11 posted on 06/01/2005 5:48:41 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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A similar Darwinian explanantion should apply to the effects of alcohol on Native Americans.


12 posted on 06/01/2005 5:51:24 PM PDT by etcetera (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom, unless he be vigilant in its preservation.)
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Wonder what is different between cow's milk and goat's milk? My father in law was so intolerant of cow's milk, he was weened on goat's milk. He wsas from Germany.


13 posted on 06/01/2005 5:51:35 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Pro 26:13 The sluggard saith: 'There is a pierced in the way; yea, a pierced is in the streets.')
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To: Xenophobic Alien
Pure and Simple B.S.

My family is from Poland, They came to America and settled in Wisconsin, owned dairy farms. If I drink a glass of milk I cramp and (other things I would rather not mention) for days.

Not B.S.

My family is from Poland, They came to America and settled in Pennsylvania and New Jersey, and consumed a lot of dairy products. If I drink a glass of milk, I don't cramp, but enjoy every drop of that homogenized dairy goodness. Cheese and Ice cream, too. MMMMmmMMm.

14 posted on 06/01/2005 5:53:23 PM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
Pure and unadulterated BS. Many peoples of equatorial Africa for centuries have had milk as a main source of their diet. Some fermented it, mixed it with cereal grains, some still today relish a mixture of cow's blood and milk, which they have drank since time immemorial.

The Bantu people arose in equatorial and West Africa, true, but they certainly have not had cattle since 'time immemorial'. Cattle were introduced from the north probably around 100 AD.

BTW, fermenting it destroys the lactose.

15 posted on 06/01/2005 5:55:10 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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I developed a milk intolerance several years ago. My wife fed me Acidofilus milk for a while and Bam...I was able to drink whole milk again
16 posted on 06/01/2005 5:55:23 PM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: PatrickHenry

Fascinating. What a stunning reproof of ID. Their already hyper-strained arguments must now be further strained by the insistence that this only suggests God "created" different groups' ability to metabolize milk according to the groups' proximities to dairy-friendly regions.


17 posted on 06/01/2005 5:56:33 PM PDT by fire and forget
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A new Cornell University study finds that it is primarily people whose ancestors came from places where dairy herds could be raised safely and economically, such as in Europe, who have developed the ability to digest milk.

I live in Southeast Asia where, at least, the majority of my friends and in-laws are lactose intolerant. To my knowledge, Tibet and Mongolia are the exceptions to the no milk products tendency of this part of the world. It would interest me to know the results of such a study in those areas. I know that in Chiang Mai, while people love ice cream, most cannot handle much and many cannot handle any. BTW the Dairies and cheese makers are all German.

18 posted on 06/01/2005 5:57:11 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: etcetera
A similar Darwinian explanantion should apply to the effects of alcohol on Native Americans.

A Google search reveals that you're on to something:
Forbidden fruit: understanding alcoholism in the context of evolution.

19 posted on 06/01/2005 6:02:44 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry

What about the Zulu's that drink blood.


20 posted on 06/01/2005 6:08:08 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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