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France Rejects EU Constitution
MensNewsDaily.com ^ | May 29, 2005 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 05/30/2005 3:54:04 AM PDT by RogerFGay

France Rejects EU Constitution

May 29, 2005


by Roger F. Gay

The French people voted down the proposed EU constitution in a referendum today, temporarily lifting the dark cloud that was descending over Europe. In order to go into effect, it needed the approval of all 25 current member states. The French non will send EU architects back to the drawing board.

If passed, the new constitution would have given absolute power to Brussels on all domestic issues in a system controlled primarily by unelected bureaucrats. An elected parliament would have had an advisory role. At the state level, members of parliament would have been reduced to bureaucratic functionaries. This dictatorship in the eyes of its architects would have created a “more efficient” European Union where “cooperation” would be assured.

Whether or not a new version will be an improvement remains to be seen. The debate on the constitution has been nothing if not utterly dishonest. Utter failure by journalists of the old media to analyze and impart accurate information left voters in the dark about what the constitution is all about. Politicians selling the document focused on bright and shiny intentions rather than the real effect passage of the document would have.

At one point in the process, a set of basic, on-point criticisms did reach the public. The proposed constitution has problems with enforcement of human rights – depending as it does on stated intentions that bureaucrats with overwhelming power will create one huge happy socialist state. Another problem is that it would eliminate the hard-won democracy that exists in Europe today for the same reason.

To reduce the damage done by the truth, promoters quickly claimed that significant changes were made that fixed the problems. Journalists generally seemed just as befuddled as everyone else, reporting for the most part that they did not really understand the complex issues raised by the long bureaucratic document to begin with, let alone what difference a set of small and insignificant changes would make. It was really just the same constitution with yet another dishonest cover story.

So what will the next proposal look like? No one knows right now, but there will most certainly be attempts to revitalize the old one. “A new cover story is all it needs,” someone will suggest. And with the blind, deaf, and dumb dominance of the old managed news media still at their disposal, the forces of evil and ignorance will stand a chance of creating yet another great catastrophe in Europe.

Roger F. Gay



Roger F. Gay is a professional analyst, international correspondent and regular contributor to MensNewsDaily.com, as well as a contributing editor for Fathering Magazine.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: euconstitution
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1 posted on 05/30/2005 3:54:04 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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2 posted on 05/30/2005 3:54:46 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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3 posted on 05/30/2005 3:55:26 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
The EU Constitution was nothing less than a bid to strip national parliaments across Europe of their control over the purse strings and to render the nation-state obsolete. The French said NO to this undemocratic vision of Europe. Whether Europe's elites finally invite the public to take full part in discussing the questions of European integration remains to be seen. One thing is nevertheless clear from Sunday's French referendum verdict: a Euroland imposed from above can never be a viable entity in the eyes of the Continent's inhabitants.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
4 posted on 05/30/2005 4:05:30 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: RogerFGay; All

I never would think to say that but...

THANK YOU FRANCE!!!! :-)


5 posted on 05/30/2005 4:11:45 AM PDT by an italian (th)
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To: an italian

The French are no different than any other people - they believe in their superiority over other peoples.

Attempting to create a system of government that ignores that perception will always fail if left to a vote by the people. (Other countries' citizens might not believe themselves to be "superior" but would still perceive themselves as individuals and fight like hell to retain their identity.)

The drafters of the EU knew this and intentionally tried to keep the effects of the "constitution" (what a perverse use of that word) from the people of each country. All will reject it if they know what it does to them.


6 posted on 05/30/2005 4:22:47 AM PDT by Abundy (Locke, Hobbes, Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton, et. al. - The orginal extremist militia groupies...)
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To: goldstategop
Rising above the common befuddlement that is truly intended to destroy democracy and impose a Socialist state uber alles, the French did see one thing clearly:

It wasn't French enough

Seriously, does everyone not see the common aim of the modern, union controlled, educational system of the masses?

It's no different here.

7 posted on 05/30/2005 4:25:08 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: RogerFGay

It's obvious what needs to happen when people decide to do something smart: take the vote away from the people!


8 posted on 05/30/2005 4:30:47 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: goldstategop
The European nobility will do whatever they have to do to rule the world.

Once they have stripped the countries of their sovereignty, they will change the constitution gradually until they have absolute central control. Our liberal politicians are doing the same thing with WTO, NAFTA, CAFTA (central America free trade agreement), and in the future SAFTA South American Free Trade Agreement.

The united States is slowly being stripped of it's ability to manufacture anything that we could defend our country with. The Euro constitution would do this in one swift move.

I hate to say this but the French are beginning to realize this too.

9 posted on 05/30/2005 4:34:03 AM PDT by chainsaw
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To: RogerFGay

And NINE countries voted FOR such a stripping of their democracies? Are Europeans too stupid to use the internet to find out what is really going on instead of being led like dumb cattle by their deceitful governments and their lap dogs, the old media? I grudgingly give credit to the French voters who might not have known what was going on but who knew there was something evil afoot in this faux "constitution."


10 posted on 05/30/2005 4:40:18 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: chainsaw

The French motivation to vote, Non, is much more pedestrian than some people think. The new constition was too "free-market oriented for them. French citizens said so over and over again when asked.

Having to become more competitive economically threated their precious guaranteed 6 week summer vacation running around naked on the nude beaches of Spain and Greece, their beloved 35 hour work week and the rest of their nanny-state socialism.


11 posted on 05/30/2005 4:41:58 AM PDT by Neville72
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For all their supposed revolutionary pretensions, the French at heart are conservative. They don't like unfamiliar change. Better the system they know than a world in which they find themselves ill positioned to catch up.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
12 posted on 05/30/2005 4:44:29 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: RogerFGay

In a speech delivered at the House of Commons in 2002, Vladimir Bukovsky noted the following similarities between the old USSR and the EU.

Like the USSR the EU is governed by a group of people who appoint one another, are unaccountable to the public, enjoy generous salaries, massive perks and huge pensions, are pretty much above the law and cannot be sacked.

The EU, like any committed socialist government, operates without any real feedback from the people, and certainly without any concern for what the people think. The state must always come first. The only people who benefit (as with all socialist and fascist organisations - and the two are, of course, interchangeable) are those who have put themselves and their friends in charge.

The workers never really benefit from socialism. The profits of the hard working, the creative and the thrifty are redistributed to the bureaucracy: the lazy, the unthinking and the wasteful.


13 posted on 05/30/2005 4:46:04 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Marxism has not only failed to promote human freedom, it has failed to produce food)
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To: goldstategop

Well at least they finally found something they wouldn't surrender to.


14 posted on 05/30/2005 4:49:03 AM PDT by Neville72
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To: RogerFGay

WHile the concept of economic and military cooperation and integration is good, the methodology was bad. The EU Constitution was too detailed and inflexible. It also was too far removed from the people. If EU leaders wish for more cooperation, perhaps they should look at the little charter we put into effect back in 1789.


15 posted on 05/30/2005 5:05:15 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: Abundy
This "Constitution" that is not really a Constitution is only a way to delete the national identities. That's why I thank France.
16 posted on 05/30/2005 5:15:47 AM PDT by an italian (god bless all the b in the world... Bush, Berlusconi and Blair...)
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To: RogerFGay

Roger it's GOOD to see YOU!!

BTW, what's your opinion of the French?

More importantly, take care.

Best Regards too!


17 posted on 05/30/2005 5:37:58 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: kittymyrib
If passed, the new constitution would have given absolute power to Brussels on all domestic issues in a system controlled primarily by unelected bureaucrats.

Amazing if true...

~And NINE countries voted FOR such a stripping of their democracies?~

Can you tell me which 9 countries agreed so far? I googled it and can't finded this information.

Thanks...

18 posted on 05/30/2005 5:51:43 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker
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To: an italian

Agreed...and my point entirely...all citizens will resist any attempt to erase their national identities.


19 posted on 05/30/2005 6:12:33 AM PDT by Abundy (Locke, Hobbes, Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton, et. al. - The orginal extremist militia groupies...)
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To: Major_Risktaker

Hard to believe a majority in nine European nations voted to walk away from their own sovereignty


20 posted on 05/30/2005 6:18:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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