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1 posted on 05/30/2005 3:54:04 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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2 posted on 05/30/2005 3:54:46 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
The EU Constitution was nothing less than a bid to strip national parliaments across Europe of their control over the purse strings and to render the nation-state obsolete. The French said NO to this undemocratic vision of Europe. Whether Europe's elites finally invite the public to take full part in discussing the questions of European integration remains to be seen. One thing is nevertheless clear from Sunday's French referendum verdict: a Euroland imposed from above can never be a viable entity in the eyes of the Continent's inhabitants.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
4 posted on 05/30/2005 4:05:30 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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I never would think to say that but...

THANK YOU FRANCE!!!! :-)


5 posted on 05/30/2005 4:11:45 AM PDT by an italian (th)
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To: RogerFGay

It's obvious what needs to happen when people decide to do something smart: take the vote away from the people!


8 posted on 05/30/2005 4:30:47 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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And NINE countries voted FOR such a stripping of their democracies? Are Europeans too stupid to use the internet to find out what is really going on instead of being led like dumb cattle by their deceitful governments and their lap dogs, the old media? I grudgingly give credit to the French voters who might not have known what was going on but who knew there was something evil afoot in this faux "constitution."


10 posted on 05/30/2005 4:40:18 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: RogerFGay

In a speech delivered at the House of Commons in 2002, Vladimir Bukovsky noted the following similarities between the old USSR and the EU.

Like the USSR the EU is governed by a group of people who appoint one another, are unaccountable to the public, enjoy generous salaries, massive perks and huge pensions, are pretty much above the law and cannot be sacked.

The EU, like any committed socialist government, operates without any real feedback from the people, and certainly without any concern for what the people think. The state must always come first. The only people who benefit (as with all socialist and fascist organisations - and the two are, of course, interchangeable) are those who have put themselves and their friends in charge.

The workers never really benefit from socialism. The profits of the hard working, the creative and the thrifty are redistributed to the bureaucracy: the lazy, the unthinking and the wasteful.


13 posted on 05/30/2005 4:46:04 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Marxism has not only failed to promote human freedom, it has failed to produce food)
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To: RogerFGay

WHile the concept of economic and military cooperation and integration is good, the methodology was bad. The EU Constitution was too detailed and inflexible. It also was too far removed from the people. If EU leaders wish for more cooperation, perhaps they should look at the little charter we put into effect back in 1789.


15 posted on 05/30/2005 5:05:15 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: RogerFGay

Roger it's GOOD to see YOU!!

BTW, what's your opinion of the French?

More importantly, take care.

Best Regards too!


17 posted on 05/30/2005 5:37:58 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: RogerFGay

For a Socialist country, France's people get to vote alot--What do we have a national referendum on? NOTHING. We elect people, who are then in the pockets of the special interests and the PACs--good for the French people for telling Chirac to shove it! Vive la France!


22 posted on 05/30/2005 7:15:03 AM PDT by ktvaughn
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They won't be happy 'til they find some boob to pay for their socialist paradise, and guess where they'll look first? The US of A. We fit the bill since we're considered to be vulgar, stupid and brash. Also fat and piggish. The idea will be that they'll link the EU to the US, and then take over all decision making, diplomatic details, anything of importance. We'd provide men and arms for protecting the big happy family, plus pay lots of taxes. Otherwise, we'll be told to sit down and shut up. Sound familiar? The only question is who will suggest this first as the goal of globalization. The UN or the EU. Meanwhile, Mexico's babbling about integration with the US --they've already got a big foot in the door with twenty odd million illegals sucking us dry.


25 posted on 05/30/2005 7:57:48 AM PDT by hershey
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