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BREAKING - Dems Successfully Filibuster Bolton in Senate
CSPAN | 5/26/05 | Me

Posted on 05/26/2005 3:43:28 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket

Bolton fails to get the 60 votes to invoke cloture. Dem filbuster is on.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: 109th; 26may2005; bolton; filibuster; johnbolton; obstructionistdems; pubbiessupportus; ratssupportun; sodomy; ussenate
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub


681 posted on 05/27/2005 3:13:52 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: lawdude

Is there actually a democrat currently standing at in the well of the Senate continually speaking hour on end?


682 posted on 05/27/2005 3:40:53 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: abigkahuna
"What I don't understand though, is why unions (what remains of them) don't call for a labor shut-down over the influx of illegals which dilute their wages?!

Can someone answer that question for me?"

My 2 cents: SEIU wants more dues. It's the largest and fastest growing of the AFL-CIO. SEIU pays off the democrats. GOP panders for votes. Globalists in both parties attempt to erase the southern border.

683 posted on 05/27/2005 3:43:30 AM PDT by endthematrix (Newsweek lied, people died)
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To: Dog Gone; GoLightly
Frist does not acquiece to Rule XXII (but not not seek UC to preserve issue)
So let me say this: If my Democratic colleagues exercise self-restraint and do not filibuster judicial nominees, Senate traditions will be restored. It will then be unnecessary to change Senate procedures. Self-restraint on the use of the filibuster for nominations--the very same self-restraint that Senate minorities exercised for more than two centuries--will alleviate the need for any action. But if my Democratic colleagues continue to filibuster judicial nominees, the Senate will face this choice: Fail to do its constitutional duty or reform itself and restore its traditions, and do what the Framers intended.

Right now, we cannot be certain judicial filibusters will cease. So I reserve the right to propose changes to Senate rule XXII, and do not acquiesce to carrying over all the rules from the last Congress.

As a public servant who has twice taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution, I cannot stand idly by, nor should any of us, if the Senate fails to do its constitutional duty. We, as Senators, have our constitutional duty to offer the President advice and consent.

Senator Frist, January 4, 2005

109th Congress - Page S14 <- Top of 2nd Column

or ... Click here & navigate to #23
684 posted on 05/27/2005 3:55:00 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: roses of sharon; All

"Amazing how Dem US Senators speak on the floor and overseas about their country to comfort our enemies, with boots on the ground, about the lying evil Bush and his plan to take over the worlds oil, not to mention trashing our soldiers as murderers."

I agree. I am becoming convinced that the Democratic party needs to rename itself the Socialist, or even Neo-Communist Party in some sense, and that these Democratic senators want to subjugate the United States to the control of the UN, with US troops subject to the will of the UN. I think at one time there was talk of this. Furthermore, had Kerry won, I believe the plan was to appoint Clinton SecGen of the UN somehow, so that, when the Law of the Sea Treaty would be passed, world government would be a fact, with Clinton at the helm.

I still think this is the plan, and part of the reason for the objection to Bolton.


685 posted on 05/27/2005 4:18:29 AM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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Apparently Republicans never heard or retained the fable of the fox and the scorpion:

There was this fox and a scorpion and they were standing at the bank of a large river. The scorpion told the fox that he couldn't swim and could he have a ride on the fox's back. The fox eyed the scorpion warily, having heard of the scorpion's prickly disposition and asked, "what assurance do I have that you won't just sting me to death?" The scorpion laughed and said that that would be silly, because the scorpion couldn't swim and then they would both die. That made sense to the fox and he agreed to carry the scorpion to the other side. Half way across the river, the scorpion stung the fox and just before they disappeared beneath the water, the fox asked him why he had done it. He replied, "you knew I was a scorpion when I hopped on your back".

or the song about the snake and the gentle woman that concludes "You knew I was a snake before you took me in".
686 posted on 05/27/2005 4:20:45 AM PDT by Centaur (Never practice moderation to excess.)
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To: steveegg

Everyone on Fox, GOP and Dem alike said that Bolton would be confirmed after the break.


687 posted on 05/27/2005 4:30:00 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: So Cal Rocket

I haven't read the whole thread (it's long and it's late), so pls pardon the repetition, but:

I don't think Frist has the Nuke votes anymore. McLame and group won't let it happen....they'll lose all their clout.


688 posted on 05/27/2005 4:30:35 AM PDT by Randy Papadoo (Not going so good? Just kick somebody's a$$. You'll feel a lot better!)
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To: Lazamataz
You mean you will vote for the hillary/Mcqueeg ticket instead of the Allen/Rice ticket, come onnnnnn!
689 posted on 05/27/2005 4:30:55 AM PDT by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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To: Centaur

Good one.

Recently, I have started wondering what my country will be like in 30 years. I look back to the 70s, and then look ahead. As it stands, I watch old movies, and become agitated at survey people who call me about American values now.

Who would have thought polio, Dengue fever, tropical diseases, weird parasites from the other Americas that can kill you if you kiss someone, or TB acquired in a chicken cleaning place would start to march through the US?


690 posted on 05/27/2005 4:31:09 AM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: Fishtalk
We don't need 50 people gathered in a circle all singing koom by yahhh. We stand on our own, make our own decisions and need no one to tell us wrong from right.Dig it.
691 posted on 05/27/2005 4:34:38 AM PDT by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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To: GoLightly

Herding cats, I know where you got that one.


692 posted on 05/27/2005 4:35:37 AM PDT by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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To: scott7278

Frist will take the coward's way out and do nothing. The repubs are so stupid, trusting the democrats is like trusting the North Koreans. How many more times will the pubs fall for those democrat lies? I wonder how this would have played out in the MSM today if the roles had be reversed? I think we should send some monkeys, goats and jellyfish to the house and senate so we could get something honest done. NSNR


693 posted on 05/27/2005 4:47:23 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: cody32127

I would call them useful idiots for being suckers out of season. They will probably blame it on their own party for not being bi-partisan enough. To sum it up the "un-magnificient 7" with an "I.Q. of 11." You can call McStain and the others at 1-800-SELL-OUTS-R-US. Callers will receive a free Ted "Dead" Kennedy blowup blimp complete with toy Oldsmobile submerged in water with a mary joe minature doll trapped inside. NSNR


694 posted on 05/27/2005 4:56:57 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Randi Papadoo
I don't think Frist has the Nuke votes anymore. McLame and group won't let it happen....they'll lose all their clout.

You may be right, but there are TWO places for the gang of 14 to hang on to power.

One is at the cloture vote. If cloture is affirmed, then the vote on the nomination will occur. This is the DEM promise to "not filibuster." No filibuster, no nuke. I expect the cloture vote to be reversed on reconsideration, and a vote to proceed on Bolton. Caveat, my predictions have been consistently incorrect ;-)

The second one is the vote on the point of order. This is the one where "doesn't have the nuke votes anymore" plays directly. Whether he has the votes or not, he has expressed that if pressed to do so, he will cause 100 Senators to put their sense of the matter into effect, and on the record, via a vote.

I sincerely hope that the GOP is willing to go to the mat for all nominations, not just judicial nominations. I hope that because that is what the constitution calls for.

695 posted on 05/27/2005 4:59:58 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Damn Right? Our tax dollars had at work helping the terrorist in their struggle against the infidels. I sometimes wonder who is advising President Bush on these dumb-ass decisions? We will never see one cent in re-payemt from those F'n muzzlelums. A simple syllogism, "Funding muzzlems for future attacks on America," Hell, it seems to be the American way?


696 posted on 05/27/2005 5:04:51 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Fishtalk

Specter should have been gone along time ago. Useless in every sense except to the democrats. NSNR


697 posted on 05/27/2005 5:06:32 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Pete'sWife

Folks it seems like this is deep breath time. There is more going on in the senate than filibustering of judicial nominees, and we are not in on the undercurrent of tactics and information. Stop your contributions if you must, but give senators time to see how this all plays out. Even Senator Thune has stated he would vote with the dems on Bolton.

Don't know if he has yet, but, there is something going on. Not sure if this is just a small show of force because Ellsworth AFB ended up on the closure list with the largest per capita impact on a state financially, in a state that went big time for George Bush, and dumped Daschle, or just what.

Winning is more than skewering your opponent. He must be skewered so you don't get skewered back, and with the dems, who have a great deal of skewering experience while covering their own behinds that is easier said than done. Give these men whom we just barely elected, some time, they are not idiots, despite the perception.


698 posted on 05/27/2005 5:16:52 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: wita; All
Good post. I kinda sold out Frist a few days ago as a weak leader but after reading that endless live Senate thread last night have changed my mind. He may be a lot slicker than we know.
699 posted on 05/27/2005 5:26:27 AM PDT by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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To: sgtbono2002

You hit it right on the head, "the gumption' to quit being nice and turning the other cheek. Excellent analysis and very true. NSNR


700 posted on 05/27/2005 5:28:41 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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