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To: Torie
The deal takes it off the table for this senate term.

Does it?

"Nominees should only be filibustered under extraordinary circumstances, and each signatory must use his or her own discretion and judgment in determining whether such circumstances exist."

"In light of the spirit and continuing commitments made in this agreement, we commit to oppose the rules changes in the 109th Congress, which we understand to be any amendment to or interpretation of the Rules of the Senate that would force a vote on a judicial nomination by means other than unanimous consent or Rule XXII."

Seems to this layman that when the Dems start to filibuster, if the GOP members decide that it isn't an 'extraordinary circumstance', then they are no longer committed to opposing rule changes. Am I wrong?

1,064 posted on 05/23/2005 5:46:08 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat

You are absolutely correct.


1,080 posted on 05/23/2005 5:47:18 PM PDT by Chuck54 (Real courage is when you know you're licked before you begin, but you begin anyway. - Harper Lee)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

"we commit to oppose the rules changes in the 109th Congress...any amendment to or interpretation of the Rules of the Senate that would force a vote on a judicial nomination by means other than unanimous consent or Rule XXII."

Worth repeating.


1,088 posted on 05/23/2005 5:48:39 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I don't like this deal, but I think you are right about this. If the GOP doesn't think it is an EC, the deal is off the table.

Now, what are the odds the RINOs will decide it isn't an EC? Slim to none, and Slim just left town. We've been stabbed in the back. Again.


1,098 posted on 05/23/2005 5:49:14 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Our legal system is in a PVS. Time to remove it from the public feeding trough.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Ya, because the deal says that what is extraordinary is totally subjective and in the eye of the beholder. Granted, in a really eggregious case, I suppose some Pubbie would say that the finding of extraordinary is clearly ersatz and disingenuous. Anything is possible.


1,113 posted on 05/23/2005 5:51:13 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

No.
It means no rule change, and anybody who wants to define "extraordinaty circumstance" can do so as they deem fit.


1,126 posted on 05/23/2005 5:52:54 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Am I wrong?

As a matter of fact, yes you are.

1,129 posted on 05/23/2005 5:53:14 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Diddle E. Squat

This is the way I read it.

Dems:

"We will vote for three nominess who would have been confirmed anyway. In return, the GOP promises not to go nuclear if we filibuster. We will filibuster only under extrodinary circumstances, but it is our call as to what those circumstances are. (Psst...When the time comes we will make another deal. Everyone knows the GOP runs fromn fights, but you didn't hear it from us..)

BTW...the President should consult with us before sending a nomination to the Senate."
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Some effin' deal.



1,344 posted on 05/23/2005 6:21:19 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Diddle E. Squat
You're wrong. When have the Dems EVER played by the rules and since when, do RINOs ever condemn Dems? NEVER !
1,475 posted on 05/23/2005 6:42:51 PM PDT by nopardons
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