Fox: 730pm Press Conference to Announce Filibuster Compromise

[jern]

Announce Filibuster Compromise

[ImphClinton]

No the detractors here are the IDIOTS.

WE WON. WE REALLY DID.

Wait and see each of Bush's nominees will get a vote which is all we ever wanted. The bar is high for future filibusters. Not one example was named.

If the Dims dare filibuster that will be the end of it. No deal at that point just the end of filibustering judges. Not even 100 hours of debate then, maybe 50 or less.

The DU knows they lost and they are right.

[AFPhys]

I loved your put-down of econ-grad in post 971. I think everyone needs to cool off a bit and see how this all plays out now. My biggest take is that three of the "MOST EXTREME CONSERVATIVE JUDGES" are going to be confirmed right away. That's going to be very hard for the Demodog base to recover from...

[Cboldt]

The Democrats will filibuster whom they please.

I agree. And it will look like breaking the agreement. "I thought the agreement meant no more filibusters!"

The Republicans will not stop them.

I think the next go around will look alot like this one. Outcome uncertain.

[RobFromGa]

We agreed to not stop the Dems from filibustering as long as they don't filibuster.

Clearly you are very confused.

I'll use simpler words. If they don't filibuster judicial nominees, we won't change the rules to make such filibusters illegal. Those are the two parts of the deal.

It goes without saying that if they filibuster judicial nominees in the future then the agreement is null and void.

[al_again]

And since when do we let Harry define victory or defeat??? I remember the dem's claiming victory in 2002 and 2004. Why do you care what they say? This could still be total victory - don't piss on it just yet.

[AndrewC]

With enough fillibustering the Democrats

You don't understand. Frist pulls the trigger.

[You Dirty Rats]

Take a look at this blog and then see if you are still optimistic.. They said it better than anyone on this thread:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/

[Dan from Michigan]

Think Positive. Imagine the message sent to him if his protege gets sent back to Hamilton County. :)

[Zivasmate]

And what exactly have these RINOs gotten you? Nothing. On the votes that count, you can NEVER count on them. And if you think Republicans really control the Senate, you're just kidding yourself.

I have no use for DeWine or the Maine women or McCain. They only serve to give you the illusion they're Republicans, but they're ideological Demorats ontoo many issues. If my Party is going to control the Senate, I want the real thing. It's sort of like kissing your sister. It may feel nice, but it really gets you nowhere.

[Rise of South Park Republicans]

LOL! That was a good one

[Cboldt]

Democratic officials said an unwritten aspect of the pact is that two nominees not named in the deal - Brett Kavanaugh and William J. Haynes - would not be confirmed and would be turned aside either at the committee level or on the floor.

I've wondered how the Judiciary Committee would play its hand on this. One thing really good is that NONE of the politicians are having much success hiding. Not the DEMs, not the squishee GOP.

If the DEMs appear to be negotiating in bad faith, we're right back where we started, except some nominations will have been voted on.

[beyond the sea]

lol.

[nopardons]

bttt

[penowa]

And who is going to benefit from the "backlash?" The same people who benefit from the split in the Republican party. And who would those people be? Democrats, of course, and Hillary in particular. Maybe she won't even need a 3rd party conservative to siphon off Republican votes. She might be able to win with over 50%. And who would you say is helping her split the party and cause the backlash. (Pardon me, I have to run and get my tin foil hat before I get flamed for this heresy.)

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

I generally agree, with the exception of certain states, e.g. Rhode Island and Massachusetts.

In Lincoln Chaffee's case, he initially ran against a fervently pro-life Democrat.

Now, even though that was the only issue-with perhaps the exception of Indian gaming-on which we agreed, I would have probably cast my ballot for the Dem. in the general election, for the simple reason that he would have stood with the Republican Caucus on a pivotal issue of morality.

[Cboldt]

Those three will get a vote. They aren't confirmed yet. Senators make all sorts of ugly side deals. The test is still coming - will ALL of the nominees get an up or down vote?

[al_again]

ok - go run a true conservative candidate in the NE - see what happens. Yes - they are undependable but they are much better than having a liberal dem.


Dammit - you made me defend those schmucks - now I need to go take a shower.

[RobFromGa]

They put clauses like this in so they can do exactly what they want when the want.

Well, it only takes two of the moderate RINOS to decide they disagree with the liberals interpretation. Warner, Graham, Dewine are all red-state Republicans. And I think that even McCain will not be pleased if they resume filibusters. This is not just a hypothetical, we'll see in the days, weeks and months ahead. We should have a good idea soon.

[You Dirty Rats]

It goes without saying that if they filibuster judicial nominees in the future then the agreement is null and void.

No, without saying it then it doesn't go. Until Part A, the 'Rats can filibuster in extraordinary circumstances -- which each Senator can decide for themselves. In Part B, changes Rules or interpretations WILL NOT HAPPEN. There is nothing in the agreement that allows a Senator to violate "B" if he disagreed with another Senator's interpretation of "A". You can't just make up cluases that aren't in the clear text of an agreement unless you are a liberal SCOTUS Justice.

[ImphClinton]

NOT SO.

Any of the signers of this can determine that the filibuster is not warranted. Then it will not occur.

You really think they could convince all seven unless there really was good reason. I don't.

But say they could then they would lose confirmation by two votes anyway.

Break the compact and the deal is null and void. Nuclear is then nearly certain.