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Fox: 730pm Press Conference to Announce Filibuster Compromise

Posted on 05/23/2005 4:18:39 PM PDT by jern

Announce Filibuster Compromise


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
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To: onyx

The fact Senator Warner was involved in this, baffles me to no end. He must be getting senile in his advanced age. Forgetting who's side he's on.


1,761 posted on 05/23/2005 7:54:05 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Don't hate me because I'm a player)
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To: JulieRNR21
and now I'm thinking that this may be the best we could get especially if Frist didn't have the votes needed to nuke the judicial filibuster.

As I calm down a bit and rethink it I agree that Frist was also hoodwinked by the 7 RINO's who would not support the nuke option. The fight is not over, but simply delayed. In the interim I hope all 7 are repaid in kind when they come calling for funds needed for re-election.

1,762 posted on 05/23/2005 7:54:20 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: Rebelbase
How does the nuke option exist if 7 turncoats can't be trusted to vote for it?

Reality Check;

Even if the seven turncoats vote for the nuke option, how can they be trusted to vote for the judges in the up-or-down vote? The bottom line is, we don't have 50 Conservative senators. Lots of people here seem suprised about this.

You can't squeeze blood from a rock and you can't pass a conservative agenda without a majority of conservative senators.

Repeating: No blood from rocks. We don't have 50 Conservative Senators. We need to work to get 50 senators.

1,763 posted on 05/23/2005 7:54:53 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: onyx

Face it...Frist IS and ALWAYS has been USELESS!


1,764 posted on 05/23/2005 7:55:06 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: jackbill

Yes, but the infamous seven Republicans also agreed to oppose the constitutional option for the next two years. Period. No equivication, no conditions.




The agreement was based on the Rats keeing their side of the DEAL....if they don't..... then the way I read it....the RINOs can nuke them. Graham interpreted it that way when I heard him on CNN.


1,765 posted on 05/23/2005 7:55:30 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Tell Senators to stop judicial filibuster....using FREE number: 1-877-762-8762)
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To: nopardons

Will this agreement be voted on by the entire Senate to make it binding?


1,766 posted on 05/23/2005 7:56:03 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: BigSkyFreeper
The fact Senator Warner was involved in this, baffles me to no end. He must be getting senile in his advanced age. Forgetting who's side he's on.

Warner has always had only one side - his side. It's long past time for him to go.

1,767 posted on 05/23/2005 7:56:42 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Soul Seeker; alwaysrepublican
A cabal of 14 just staged a cup of the Government.

"A cup" .......... right now I could use two cups........... a pint of whiskey!

1,768 posted on 05/23/2005 7:57:05 PM PDT by beyond the sea (I’m sleeping with myself tonight.........saved in time, thank God my music’s still alive)
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To: truthkeeper
Channel surfing and came across Crissy in the middle of a love in with L. Graham. Was revolting to see them all but high fiving one another on the "moderates" taking control of the senate. They were both grinning from ear to ear like Cheshire cats.
1,769 posted on 05/23/2005 7:57:10 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Victoria Delsoul; rcocean; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; jackbill
The thought that kept recurring to me, as I was listening to Lindsay Graham, was Who elected this dork???!!!

IN SOUTH CAROLINA, NO LESS!

Seriously, I don't know how many of you remember that god-awful extemporaneous, and long-winded, non-Lincolnesque speech he delivered as a House Manager...

I couldn't help but be convinced-as I was listening to him pontificate in the well of the U.S. Senate-that this is the type of summation that a prosecutor would give if he wanted to ensure that the defendant was acquitted.

WHY WAS THIS NERD GIVEN A PROMOTION?!

Ugh.

1,770 posted on 05/23/2005 7:57:25 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("What in the world happened to Gerard's tag-line?")
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Reactions here are so predictable.

Culture moderates and liberals yawn or claim victory.

Real conservatives are pissed.


1,771 posted on 05/23/2005 7:57:29 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Rebelbase

You seem to have a finger on the pulse of DU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1494562&mesg_id=1494562

They seem even more unhappy than we do about this. Lots of them threatening to resign and stop contributing etc etc.

I hope for a little less drama and a little more analysis by Republicans. The seven could well vote for CO if the Dems use the filibuster. Only two have to decide that the Dems are filibustering on a "non-extreme" case, and the CO wins. Nobody has defined "extreme" in the agreement, which makes it worth less than the paper it is written on. Meanwhile we get guaranteed up/down votes on some of the nominees.

Personally I would have preferred to win tomorrows vote. But to claim this is an apocalypse is simply overstating the case. My opinion. Be as upset as you want. But I'm not sure it accomplishes anything other than blowing off steam.


1,772 posted on 05/23/2005 7:58:09 PM PDT by Da Mav
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

No, it is a done deal between the 16 senators who signed on.


1,773 posted on 05/23/2005 7:58:17 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Keith in Iowa

>>> I'm getting damned sick and tired of you people who are blaming Frist when the real culprits are McCain, Graham, Warner, Snowe, Collins, DeWine and Chafee.

''''It's a lack of leadership for MONTHS that has us where we are tonight. Just as you are sick of people blaming Frist, I'm just as sick of people making excuses for his lack of leadership that got us here to start with.''''

I agree with you, there is a definite lack of effective leadership in this man, and I also am tired of others making excuses for his lack of effective leadership as the majority party in power. What is the reason to be in the majority if you do not know effectivily use it?


1,774 posted on 05/23/2005 7:58:56 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: ARCADIA

s/b 14 not 16 senators


1,775 posted on 05/23/2005 7:59:00 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: wardaddy; All
The fundraising envelope will be going back to the RNC with two letters,
M T
1,776 posted on 05/23/2005 7:59:01 PM PDT by olde north church (Priority: MESSAGE, then messenger.)
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To: Kenny Bunkport
Thanks for the link to 702. It's gotten buried. But that being the case, do you think any of these Quislings can be trusted with their "word"? I still think if enough pressure is applied on them at some future date, some may cave.

I would hope that if the Rats filibuster, they would reconsider and vote with the rest of the party. However, I wouldn't count on it, much less bet the farm.

1,777 posted on 05/23/2005 7:59:16 PM PDT by CedarDave (RINO's make Pubbies MINO's (Majority in Name Only))
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To: StarFan

I have been returning postage paid envelopes with my comments in black marker.....such as:

NO MORE MONEY FROM ME UNTIL THE JUDICIAL NOMINEES GET A VOTE

May have to revise it to:

NO MORE MONEY FROM ME UNLESS YOU CANGUARANTEE THE RINOS WON'T GET SOME


1,778 posted on 05/23/2005 7:59:21 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Tell Senators to stop judicial filibuster....using FREE number: 1-877-762-8762)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
well, the Dems won. Clear and simple victory for them as they forced our party to take them seriously and make a deal.
What are our guys saying behind closed doors - not all of them can be celebrating. At least some of them must know this is a farce.
God Lord - when have the Dems ever played ' fair ' or ' Nice when we extend the olive branch?
Pathetic.
1,779 posted on 05/23/2005 7:59:23 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: nwrep
The majority whip was on TV on Monday AM saying they had the votes.

There are 55 Repubs. They only needed 50. Why is it that Reid kept every single Democrat on his side, and we, with the backing of the White House, couldn't keep 50 out of 55 senators? We couldn't even get 1 of 45 Democrats to switch sides.

The majority can bribe and threaten, especially with the help of the white house, yet they couldn't keep party discipline to get an UP or DOWN vote.

The only explanation is that the whole thing was a dog and pony show. This has going on since November. And the end result - nothing.
1,780 posted on 05/23/2005 7:59:40 PM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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