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1 posted on 05/21/2005 11:21:47 AM PDT by Destro
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Please read this article on this subject: US after 9/11: None the wiser
2 posted on 05/21/2005 11:23:44 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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Thanks Destro. For quite a while there, it was nearly forbidden for anyone to suggest we should have prevented 09/11. Now I think folks are starting to understand how miserably our intelligence agencies and political leadership failed us.

No, those comments weren't intended as an indictment of Bush. However, Bush stands alone at this time as the most clear threat to this nation trough his ignorance related to controling our borders.

Why are we still allowing immigration from terrorist states? Why are we allowing an open border situation to exist that lets anyone who bears a grudge against this nation to enter? Why is there no visible understanding or concern evidenced by Bush's actions, that reveal his understanding of a central and south American originated gang presence in our nation?

Color me disgusted, from invasion central...


3 posted on 05/21/2005 11:32:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Destro

I hold Bill Clinton 100 percent the reason for it The title for it should have been as Bill Clinton staines blue dress


4 posted on 05/21/2005 11:35:07 AM PDT by al baby
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To: Destro

Exceptional book. I recommend to everyone who wants to make the US and the world a better place, not just wave a flag and have a parade. Some bits of it are a bit high-handed, but overall it is really on-target.

Almost four years out from that day, we need to start having genuine discussion. The time for CYA should be over.


5 posted on 05/21/2005 11:39:40 AM PDT by HowardDeanScream08
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To: Destro
As a detailed, carefully documented exposé of ignorance, complacency, shortsightedness and negligence, WHY AMERICA SLEPT is perhaps the most important of the recent books addressing various aspects of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

It takes an entire book to figure it out?

Just ban all visas (indeed, all entries into the U.S.) from islamic countries, and all islamic names.

Ninety percent of the problem solved. And we can save trillions in not devising ways to abuse our own citizens in the name of "safety".
(I do not consider muslims who abtain citizenship fraudulently actually to be citizens).

6 posted on 05/21/2005 11:41:43 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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To: Destro
which has consisted largely of an unprecedented assault on the Bill of Rights, especially in the areas of privacy and due process. It is a vastly important book that every American ought to read.

This is a red herring valuable to communists, socialists and progressives among us. The enemy within.
The real and permanent damage is the trillions of $ it has taken to adopt the "politically correct" solutions.

If not abandoned soon, it shall take us down as a country.

9 posted on 05/21/2005 11:47:13 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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"Among the worst, in terms of consequences, was the unwillingness of the FBI and CIA to cooperate and share information."

Weren't we told that an understudy in Janet Reno's justice department, one Jamie Gorelick, wrote a regulation banning cooperation between agencies?

It was done to prevent any processing of William The Bent's earlier un-American activities. It also prevented proper intelligence gathering on the 9/11 perps.

Looks to me like the Clinton administration is the basic problem here.

11 posted on 05/21/2005 11:52:27 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Destro; MurryMom
...he has conceded that he was "infuriated" by some of his discoveries and "disgusted" in particular by President Clinton's failure to neutralize the threat posed by the al-Qaeda leader, Osama bin Laden. Posner provides details of opportunities to capture bin Laden, opportunities that he says Clinton either ignored or rejected. Moreover, he says, Clinton declined offers by both Sudan and Qatar to arrest bin Laden and deliver him to the United States. Perhaps for purposes of comic relief, Posner also quotes Clinton's national security adviser, Sandy Berger, as saying that as early as 1996 the administration was "trying to get bin Laden with everything we had." In this carnival of boneheadedness and floundering incompetence, Posner recounts one outrage after another.

That can't possibly be true because Murrymom sez -

"[Billy Jeff's] book was a little too short for my tastes. If he could have served the country another 4 or 8 years we might have been spared the unpleasantness of 9/11 and the tens of thousands of innocent human lives lost in its aftermath. Having [the impeached Bubba] in office for another 8 years would have made the extra 500 or so pages worth reading, even if the price of the paperback edition skyrocketed to $15 or so."

Isn't that right - Murrymom?

15 posted on 05/21/2005 12:42:51 PM PDT by Libloather (If it wernt for spellcheck, I'd have no check at all. Gloom, despair, and agony on me...)
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People hold Bush and Clinton responsible for the lapses in Intelligence organizations and while they can bear some of the blame. I blame the people pointing the fingers. It was Congress, the Senate and the Judiciary that emasculated our intelligence organizations in the 70s and 80s. Now, because of their knee jerk reactions to so called abuses of power, the chickens have come home to roost.


17 posted on 05/21/2005 12:57:56 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Destro

I read that book about a year ago. It was a great read. It is amazing what we didn't do.


18 posted on 05/21/2005 1:17:10 PM PDT by Lemondropkid31 (pending)
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*Ping*

Ping for you, pretty lady...

19 posted on 05/21/2005 1:18:59 PM PDT by Utilizer (Some days you're the windshield. Some days you're the bug...)
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" . . .an unprecedented assault on the Bill of Rights, especially in the areas of privacy and due process."
An oft-heard allegation, remarkably lacking in substantive evidentary proof.


20 posted on 05/21/2005 1:19:44 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Destro

Does he stress Gorelick's role in PREVENTING the FBI and CIA from cooperating? Or was it just "rivalry" which killed those Americans? I do not believe it was the latter and have grave doubts about Posner.


27 posted on 05/21/2005 7:58:11 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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