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Our Two-Front Struggle
nationalreview.com ^ | May 20, 2005 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 05/20/2005 5:01:57 AM PDT by mal

One recent Newsweek story alleged — or fabricated — that a single Koran was desecrated by an American soldier in Guantanamo Bay.

The unsubstantiated rumor led to rioting and death in Afghanistan and general turmoil and rage across the Islamic world. Mullahs issued fatwas and the more lunatic even declared a "holy war." What explains the unsubstantiated story and why the hysterical reaction?

The superficial answer is that we now live in a globalized village — united by the marriage of satellite communications with cheap consumer goods. Someone sneezes in Texas and a few minutes later a villager in upper Russia can say "bless you." What an "in-the-know" Beltway insider conjures up as buzz in the "Periscope" section of the magazine for his American readers can cause death and mayhem hours later 7,000 a miles away in the Hindu Kush.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; india; islam; israel; vdh; victordavishanson
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1 posted on 05/20/2005 5:01:57 AM PDT by mal
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To: Cornpone

Ping!


2 posted on 05/20/2005 5:05:05 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Thanks:)


3 posted on 05/20/2005 5:05:42 AM PDT by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: mal

Well, Al Quada instructs its members to lie about torture when captured. Also, prisoners are instructed to make up stories that will incite the folks back home against the enemy -- that would be US.

Take a look at http://artofwarplus.com/wordpress/index.php?p=436 for sourced details on the Al Quada Training Manual captured in Manchester England.


4 posted on 05/20/2005 5:07:17 AM PDT by Tilly (I'm not paid to be stressed!!!)
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To: mal
And now add the Saddam photos....that will enrage the Sunnis in Iraq...

The media is out to get the US military.

5 posted on 05/20/2005 5:10:13 AM PDT by Dog
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To: mal
"...mayhem hours later 7,000 a miles away in the Hindu Kush."

From a post by jb6:

While not all muslims are fanatics or evil, the faith as a whole is a blood thirsty yoke upon the human spirit that in its time burnt the Library of Alexandria, turned Sumeria, Persia and Egypt from 3 of the richest lands in the world into cess pools and proudly named a mountain range the Hindu Kush (the Mountains of Dead Hindus).

Dismay at US Koran 'desecration'

6 posted on 05/20/2005 5:10:22 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: mal

bookmark


7 posted on 05/20/2005 5:12:10 AM PDT by federal
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To: mal

Victor is right on again!


8 posted on 05/20/2005 5:14:53 AM PDT by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: mal; All; jb6

Oops, this is the correct link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1398932/posts

Dismay at US Koran 'desecration'


9 posted on 05/20/2005 5:16:43 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: mal
"Desecration" is now a reason to riot, to destroy, to kill and to die?

The world has gone mad.

I refuse to do anything further until the war comes to me.

If our "leadership" can't deal with the obvious multiple attacks on our culture, the only reasonable expectation is that we'll have to do it ourselves.

If the "leadership" can't ignore screams of "desecration!", I can.
Islam, deal with it. Or die.

10 posted on 05/20/2005 5:18:36 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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To: mal

What a pleasure to read Victor in the morning:

...Abroad, we battle Islamic fascists who hate us for our success and want to kill us with the tools of the modern world they despise. But at home, we are also at odds with our own privileged guilt-ridden aristocracy, whose very munificence has made them misunderstand why they are hated...WOW !!!


11 posted on 05/20/2005 5:29:38 AM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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To: mal
We forget that far too often as we kow-tow to extremists and seek to apologize or fathom the holy protocols surrounding a religious text.

This is the essence of a non-problem over which we are expending way too much emotional and temporal capital.

It's like trying to reason with termites.
It's time to tell them all to go to hell.
Leave us alone or die.
Life is too short.

I often wonder if our leadership will be able to smell the coffee in my lifetime.

12 posted on 05/20/2005 5:33:07 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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To: Tolik

Consider yourself pinged


13 posted on 05/20/2005 5:41:54 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: mal
Abroad, we battle Islamic fascists who hate us for our success and want to kill us with the tools of the modern world they despise. But at home, we are also at odds with our own privileged guilt-ridden aristocracy, whose very munificence has made them misunderstand why they are hated.

OK article. Where's Bin Laden? Where's Isikoff? The radical Islamic fascists have a name of someone who wrote the FALSE article but not of the name of the person who flushed their holy book down the toilet. Isikoff isn't given the Salman Rushdie treatment? The double standard Islamic fascists and the double standard Isikoff have a lot more in common with each other than you or I have with either of them.

14 posted on 05/20/2005 5:42:40 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: mal; neverdem; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; ...


    Victor Davis Hanson Ping ! 

       Let me know if you want in or out

15 posted on 05/20/2005 5:58:03 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Valin
Thank you FRiend!
16 posted on 05/20/2005 5:59:42 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: mal
The Islamists insist, "We kill you for being soft." Westerners in response feel, "We are killed because we are not being soft enough."

If it is such common knowledge that the Islamists are smart enough to wage war through our own media, when are we going to take that away from them? The left elite and those in the media believe they are immune from that which they "report" on if they "stroke" the enemy. They are in for a rude awakening on this present course - soon they'll all be working for Al Jezeera...

17 posted on 05/20/2005 6:14:35 AM PDT by QuiMundus (Learn, Act, Educate, Repeat - http://www.smithism.com)
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If it is such common knowledge that the Islamists are smart enough to wage war through our own media, when are we going to take that away from them? The left elite and those in the media believe they are immune from that which they "report" on if they "stroke" the enemy...

I have suggested in the past that the Bush administration make a public announcement that they are implementing the media and information policies of the Franklin D. Roosevelt administration used during World War II. How would the leftist/subversive media be able to counter that?

18 posted on 05/20/2005 6:29:29 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: tarheelswamprat

I have suggested in the past that the Bush administration make a public announcement that they are implementing the media and information policies of the Franklin D. Roosevelt administration used during World War II. How would the leftist/subversive media be able to counter that?


The problem with that is, it's not 1943 it's 2005. In WWII there were a limited number of news outlets, today(?) there are an almost unlimited number.
Also in WWII we had an offical declaration of war, today we don't.


I don't necessarily disagree, just pointing out the problems.


19 posted on 05/20/2005 6:39:28 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Valin
I don't necessarily disagree, just pointing out the problems.

You raise valid points, but I believe they can be addressed adequately.

The problem with that is, it's not 1943 it's 2005. In WWII there were a limited number of news outlets, today(?) there are an almost unlimited number.

The media outlets causing most of the problems are the "credible", "recognized", Establishment MSM entities such as Newsweek, New York Times, etc.. We know who they are, and they are not unlimited. The thousands of "lesser", obscure outlets are not the problem.

Also in WWII we had an offical declaration of war, today we don't.

What matters is what the people will support. This is essentially a propaganda struggle. While I would fervently prefer that we get back to the proper Constitutional practice of formal declarations of war, we all know that isn't going to happen, at least in the forseeable future. It is a mistake to argue this issue solely in term of legal technicalities, it must be argued in the realm of common-sense public opinion.

My counter to this specific objection would be twofold: 1. "If the joint Congressional resolution to use force and the 17 UN Resolutions provide sufficient authorization to actually go to war (which we have done), then they also provide the authorization to implement the necessary media policies. 2. If it was good enough for FDR and the Greatest Generation, then it's good enough now!

I believe that if the administration would aggressively confront the media this way the American people would back them overwhemingly.

20 posted on 05/20/2005 7:04:58 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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