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Bills Could Grant Legality To 10 Million Immigrants
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | May 12, 2005 | Jerry Kammer

Posted on 05/12/2005 8:46:37 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds

Sweeping measures face an uphill fight

WASHINGTON – Democrats and Republicans in the House and Senate will introduce legislation today that could grant legal status to an estimated 10 million to 12 million illegal immigrants now in the United States.

The bills, which would dwarf previous programs to provide legal status to foreign workers, would give illegal immigrants work permits and the opportunity to apply for permanent residence and eventually citizenship once they pay a fine and fees.

The legislation is certain to raise the temperature of a national debate already simmering over the Minuteman Project's volunteer border patrols and just-passed legislation to deny driver licenses to undocumented immigrants.

The legislation is expected to face an uphill fight in Congress. But it would be a landmark event if enacted.

Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., and John McCain, R-Ariz., will introduce the bill in the Senate. In the House, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., will team with Arizona Republicans Jeff Flake and Jim Kolbe to introduce the measure.

The sponsors have scheduled a news conference today to kick off a publicity campaign. It will be coordinated with immigrant advocates and church groups as well as business and farming organizations that want to stabilize their work forces.

Flake said the bills seek to bring immigration law in line with job markets that have become increasingly dependent on illegal immigrants because legal workers aren't filling the jobs.

"The bottom line is we're going to have a need for foreign workers in the foreseeable future," Flake said.

He said Congress has not provided federal officials with the tools to enforce the law because it doesn't want to cut off the flow of workers.

"We can make it legal through some mechanism or we can keep it illegal and keep on pretending we are going to enforce it," he said.

While details are still being negotiated, according to the Denver Post, major provisions include:

After a criminal background check and medical examination, most of the illegal immigrants now in the country would be allowed to apply for a new visa legalizing their status. They would have to pay $2,000 in fines and processing fees for having entered the country illegally. After six years, these workers and their families could apply for permanent residency.

A guest-worker program would allow employers to bring in 400,000 foreign workers in its first year. After that, the cap would be adjusted annually based on demand. The cap could change no more than a fixed percentage a year, sources said, and those workers could eventually apply to permanently reside in the United States.

A new system would be designed to require employers to electronically verify whether their workers are in the country legally and eligible to work. Fines for employers caught hiring illegal workers would double.

"Once a program is in place for employers to get workers, there's no excuse for them not to cooperate," Flake said. "You get a good program and you enforce the heck out of it."

But Frank Sharry, executive director of the National Immigration Forum, said the program must provide enough foreign workers to meet labor needs and enough enforcement to win the support of a public increasingly skeptical about the government's ability to manage immigration.

"Any proposal will rise or fall on whether the legal channels are wide enough and the enforcement effective enough," Sharry said. "In the past it was, 'Let's keep legal channels small, but let's not enforce them too much.' "

The bills' advocates hope that the $2,000 fine will soften the angry reaction that has accompanied past amnesties, such as the sweeping 1986 measure that gave legal status to 2.7 million immigrants, most of them Mexican.

Almost 20 years later, the illegal immigrant population is expanding by nearly 500,000 people a year, according to Pew Hispanic Center demographer Jeffrey Passell.

In 1986, amnesty meant a green card for immigrants who were eligible, either because they had lived in the United States several years or – in a major concession to California farmers – because they had worked 90 days in the fields.

A fight to update that definition has already broken out.

"An amnesty is an unconditional pardon for a breach of law," Flake said.

"That's semantics," said Jack Martin of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which wants to clamp down on illegal immigration. "Any program that gives legal status to people who entered the country illegally or have stayed here illegally after being admitted is an amnesty."

Both sides will eagerly await reaction from President Bush, who last year proposed a program to provide temporary legal status for undocumented workers already here and to match "willing workers" from around the world with "willing employers."

Although the president said he rejected amnesty, he left open the possibility that some of the workers could get in line for a green card. That coveted document confers permanent residence status and the eventual opportunity to apply for citizenship.

Yesterday, White House spokeswoman Maria Tamburri responded carefully to a question about the Kennedy-McCain bill.

"The president will work with Congress on enacting legislation that is consistent with the principles he announced last year," she said.

Mark Krikorian, who directs the Center for Immigration Studies, said the White House was stunned at many conservatives' furious reaction at Bush's proposal.

Krikorian, whose organization favors restrictive immigration policies, predicted that Bush will wait to gauge public reaction to the legislation before announcing his position on it.

"There is already a match burning because of the Minuteman program," he said, referring to the volunteer patrols in Arizona near the Mexican border. "They should be afraid that this would throw gas on the fire."


Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. (left), and Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass.,
are working together on an immigration plan.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
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To: FastCoyote

Outstanding response to sheer nonsense.


181 posted on 05/12/2005 2:03:53 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: varon
"Illegal immigration is to immigration as rape is to sex."

Definitely a keeper. Thanks.

182 posted on 05/12/2005 2:05:53 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Scenic Sounds
This is damn sickening. I had to get painful innoculations that may have caused me to get Asperger's syndrome before I came into this country as a 5 year old child. My mom had to be on a waiting list and hire an Immigration lawyer, and my dad had to get an extensive criminal background check before they came into the country.

YET THESE *** DAMN BOARDER JUMPERS WHO HAVE NO RESPECT FOR AMERICAN LAW AND WHO PROBABLY DIDN'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS ENOUGH TO GET INNOCULATIONS SO THEY WON'T INFECT ME OR MY FUTURE CHILDREN ARE LITERALLY PISSING ON THE EFFORTS AND THE SUFFERING OF PEOPLE LIKE MY DAD AND MOM WHO DID IT THE RIGHT WAY AND SAYING THEY'RE FOOLISH!!!! AND WHAT'S MORE, THE GOVERNMENT REWARDS THEM FOR THEIR BEHAVIOR!!!!!

I don't care anymore. I'm making sure from this point on whenever the RNC ever wants me to donate money to them, that unless they tighten up their policies on illegals, I will campaign against them and vote CP. They deserve to lose after how they've spat in the face of every law abiding person willing to become an American.

183 posted on 05/12/2005 2:23:29 PM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Future Minnesota Refugee)
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To: The100thMonkey

Bravo!!!!!

I think when I go to the bank tomorrow, I'm going to get some pesos and send it in to the local RNC office.


185 posted on 05/12/2005 2:33:44 PM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Future Minnesota Refugee)
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To: Czar

We also believe the Constitution is a document meant to help define for all the protections the government is responsible to provide and the guidlines we use to treat each other with respect. Toss a dose of the religious and parental teachings and the country is a reasonably safe and free country.

The Constitution provides for defending from invasion, something Bush and previous administrations have failed to provide.


186 posted on 05/12/2005 2:39:19 PM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: TypeZoNegative
vote CP

I'm with you! The Repubs keep sending requests for money - they are getting a piece of my mind every time. This McCain proposal is absolutely beyond my comprehension.

My parents, grandparents, and most of my relatives had to choose between Stalin or Hitler, Siberia labor camps or concentration camps. They waited years to be admitted to the U.S., had to speak English, have sponsors, not to mention all were highly educated and productive. All had to be healthy.

I want to throw up when I hear the media or govt. use the word "immigrant" to describe criminal invaders.

187 posted on 05/12/2005 2:48:02 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Scenic Sounds; Ros42
After a criminal background check and medical examination, most of the illegal immigrants now in the country would be allowed to apply for a new visa legalizing their status. They would have to pay $2,000 in fines and processing fees for having entered the country illegally. After six years, these workers and their families could apply for permanent residency.

Over my dead body.

188 posted on 05/12/2005 2:51:54 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Truth is a rare commodity. Seek it, know it and cherish it.)
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To: Scenic Sounds

This is an important story.
Yet it is given minimum exposure.
While there is much news on illegal aliens--
Shouldn't a real story like this one be prominent on the FR Front Page ?


189 posted on 05/12/2005 3:33:13 PM PDT by CharlieChan
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To: COEXERJ145

Beware the "ilk".


190 posted on 05/12/2005 4:43:52 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Scenic Sounds

Bush has heard from me over and over about the invasion of our country. Seems he isn't listening.


191 posted on 05/12/2005 4:51:06 PM PDT by Isabelle
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To: Scenic Sounds

NO! What about NO do these elected officials of ours not understand.


192 posted on 05/12/2005 5:12:53 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Scenic Sounds

Do they know the meaning of the word PARASITE????????????


193 posted on 05/12/2005 5:13:41 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: TexasKamaAina
It is not just the issue of legality, but the volume of immigration that must be addressed.

      Indeed.  We are a nation of immigrants, but the frontiers are gone, and immigration needs to be limited and selective.  The current volume is choking society.
194 posted on 05/12/2005 5:30:35 PM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
CONSTITUTION PARTY

The Democrats and the Republicans are pushing more and more people toward the Constitution Party. We are not being represented by the "two parties" (who are really one party).

195 posted on 05/12/2005 6:49:48 PM PDT by janetgreen (Minuteman Project = American Patriotism)
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To: Scenic Sounds

I don't have a problem with a guest worker program.

HST, I say set up such a program, then round up every damn illegal, send them home and have them go through the "Green Card" process legally.

If you are in my country illegally, you need to get the hell out!


196 posted on 05/12/2005 6:53:04 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
We're in the hands of idiots.

The most cogent comment I've seen on FR all day. Perhaps all week.

197 posted on 05/12/2005 7:49:33 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Czar; Travis McGee; Mr. Mojo

This bill won't pass but it will help nail down who's the citizens enemies are in Congress. That those two clowns are trying to float this now demonstrates the tremendous pressure and influence of the cheap-labor lobby.

It's high time for a new House Un-American Activities Committee. The list of people needing scrutiny and prosecution is long indeed.


199 posted on 05/12/2005 10:49:32 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Have a nice dayeeeeeee)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Yeah, the vote tally should be interesting. ....and revealing.


200 posted on 05/12/2005 10:58:47 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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