Posted on 05/03/2005 2:33:03 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie
Islamic leaders demand apology for 'hate-filled remarks'
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
Evangelist Pat Robertson is in trouble with U.S. Islamic organizations for saying Muslims should not serve in the president's Cabinet or as judges.
Pat Robertson
In an appearance on ABC's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" Sunday, Robertson, who ran for president in 1988, said if were elected he would not appoint Muslims to his Cabinet and that he was not in favor of Muslims serving as judges.
"They have said in the Quran there's a war against all the infidels," Robertson said. "Do you want somebody like that sitting as a judge? I wouldn't."
The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations yesterday called on "mainstream political and religious leaders" to repudiate the "hate-filled remarks."
"This type of hate-filled rhetoric deserves repudiation from all who respect America's long-standing tradition of pluralism," said Rabiah Ahmed, CAIR's communication coordinator.
Ahmed said many Muslims already serve with distinction in many levels of government, including judgeships at the state and local level.
Arsalan Iftikhar, CAIR's national legal director, said Robertson "has taken his far-right-wing rhetoric to absurd levels."
"He is trying to perpetuate this notion that Islam is a monolithic entity inherently at odds with modernity and democracy," Iftikhar said. "That is absolutely false. ... American Muslims have long been contributing members of American society.
Iftikhar added: "And I guarantee to Mr. Robertson that Muslims will one day become part of the federal bench -- whether or not he likes it."
Muslims were particularly outraged by a 2002 appearance on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes" program in which Robertson said about Islam's prophet, Muhammad: "This man was an absolute wild-eyed fanatic. He was a robber and a brigand. And to say that these terrorists distort Islam, they're carrying out Islam. ... I mean, this man (Muhammad) was a killer. And to think that this is a peaceful religion is fraudulent."
Robertson also called Islam "a monumental scam" and claimed the Quran "is strictly a theft of Jewish theology."
But then again, the majority of Catholic priests weren't excusing McVeigh's behaviour and asking America to look at what she had done to bring this retribution on herself. I don't know of many Catholic clergy who openly support terrorism either.
That's pretty much the same slur they used to make against Catholics. If a Catholic Republican ever runs for President, they'll wheel it out again, without a doubt.
Well, it would make ME feel better.
Like you said, we'll just have to disagree on this one.
So? This country was not founded as a theocracy, and is still not one today.
"Religion" means religion, not Christian denominations.
I'll refer you both to Post #276.
The proof of the 15 hijackers as "Saudis" is based upon visas granted through the now defunct Visa Express program.
In other words, they could have been from anywhere. Don't fall for the leftist rhetoric.
And I'm not aware of any but a handful of American Muslims who excused 9/11. Hell, you had pasty-faced white Caucasian Americans saying America deserved 9/11; in fact, more of them than Muslims were justifying it (some on this very forum).
You are broad-brushing an entire segment of the American people, unjustifiably, IMO.
Uh, actually, no.
Check out, for example, the debates over taxation to support churches, and James Madison's commentaries on the proposals. Note that he even points out distinctly opposite from what you say...that the word religion was used separately from Christianity.
Your #276 is irrelevant. Theologians did not write the US Constitution.
15 of the 19 were from Saudi Arabia. That's a fact.
FWIW, ministers like Finney spoke and wrote in the vernacular of the common man. It wasn't just the ministers and theologians (who in that day had more influence than the Big 3 networks ever did in their heyday); everyone spoke like that.
But I'm sure you're familiar enough with the literature to refute everything I'm saying here.
Sometimes, I think you're just deliberately argumentative. :-)
You know how it works sink. I'll wait.
I must get up early to work, I don't have the luxury of getting into a pi**ing contest with you. You are young and quite arrogant in your beliefs and little "full of yourself." Most of the vitriol you see is raw passion being expressed by those who have lived long enough to witness first hand decades of attacks by forces on the left; increasing burdens high taxes; relentless attacks by the MSM and the likes of the ACLU, and so on and on. People here like the camaraderie of just bit**ing sometimes. It ISN'T all logic and perfect arguments. You have to understand that at different times posters engage at levels that may be at times more intellectual and then again like many on this thread -- just expressing raw frustrations. You are taking too many of the posters too literally -- lighten up.
You come across like a little snot that thinks they are smarter than everyone else. Believe me, there are many very bright people here. Even though you are a little snot, I am glad you are conservative!
James Madison studied theology at Princeton under Reverend John Witherspoon.
America is not exclusively for Christians. Look around, you'll see that.
Some large number of Muslims were born here, and segments of the black and white population have embraced Islam, so it's not a matter of immigration.
Had they not been allowed to enter, we wouldn't be having these problems now.
What terrorist acts have been masterminded and carried out by American Muslims? And what "problems" are you referring to, that are caused by American Muslims?
Most Jews I speak to or read on these threads agree with me that they are not welcome here.
Well, they're just as bigoted as you are, then.
CAIR and many of the so-called "moderate" Muslims. Heck, I've never met a Muslim that didn't have something negative to say about America. The ones I've encountered on campus I've actually seen printing off anti-Semitic propaganda on the university computers. The local cleric handed me literature which bashed Christianity and was nothing but paranoid hate-filled propaganda. It is a religion of delusion. Name me one country where Muslims have come to power and they haven't oppressed other religions and/or minorities. The proof is in the pudding.
There were a few Catholics in there too, pal. And I've read how tolerant the "Protestant Christians" of the time were of Catholics (not very).
We have a Constitution which does not allow discrimination on the basis of religion. If you don't like that, you are free to work to change it.
I wouldn't get my hopes up, though.
So wait.
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