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Pat Robertson:No Muslim judges
World Net Daily ^ | May 3, 2005 | World Net Daily

Posted on 05/03/2005 2:33:03 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie

Islamic leaders demand apology for 'hate-filled remarks'

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Evangelist Pat Robertson is in trouble with U.S. Islamic organizations for saying Muslims should not serve in the president's Cabinet or as judges.

Pat Robertson

In an appearance on ABC's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" Sunday, Robertson, who ran for president in 1988, said if were elected he would not appoint Muslims to his Cabinet and that he was not in favor of Muslims serving as judges.

"They have said in the Quran there's a war against all the infidels," Robertson said. "Do you want somebody like that sitting as a judge? I wouldn't."

The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations yesterday called on "mainstream political and religious leaders" to repudiate the "hate-filled remarks."

"This type of hate-filled rhetoric deserves repudiation from all who respect America's long-standing tradition of pluralism," said Rabiah Ahmed, CAIR's communication coordinator.

Ahmed said many Muslims already serve with distinction in many levels of government, including judgeships at the state and local level.

Arsalan Iftikhar, CAIR's national legal director, said Robertson "has taken his far-right-wing rhetoric to absurd levels."

"He is trying to perpetuate this notion that Islam is a monolithic entity inherently at odds with modernity and democracy," Iftikhar said. "That is absolutely false. ... American Muslims have long been contributing members of American society.

Iftikhar added: "And I guarantee to Mr. Robertson that Muslims will one day become part of the federal bench -- whether or not he likes it."

Muslims were particularly outraged by a 2002 appearance on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes" program in which Robertson said about Islam's prophet, Muhammad: "This man was an absolute wild-eyed fanatic. He was a robber and a brigand. And to say that these terrorists distort Islam, they're carrying out Islam. ... I mean, this man (Muhammad) was a killer. And to think that this is a peaceful religion is fraudulent."

Robertson also called Islam "a monumental scam" and claimed the Quran "is strictly a theft of Jewish theology."


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KEYWORDS: courts; judges; judiciary; muslim; patrobertson; sharialaw
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To: Boazo

Wow, that is a rather sophisticated addition to this disquisition


161 posted on 05/03/2005 7:05:54 PM PDT by Ksnavely
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To: Ksnavely
So you suggest that everything I need to know about Islam, I can learn from a "Christian" site? I think that statement is quite revealing about the extent to which you have investigated this issue.

Excuse me?

164 posted on 05/03/2005 7:09:12 PM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Ksnavely

Why,thank you


165 posted on 05/03/2005 7:09:55 PM PDT by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: expatguy
"pend some time looking through the forums and talking to Muslims themselves from around the world."

I agree with you, during my stay at Purdue I have worked closely with quite a few international students. Many of them Muslim, I have grown to respect them, and there religion. While being a Christian I do not agree with their doctrine, I afford them respect and understand the differences between those monsters who strap bombs on themselves, and Omar from next door who is simply trying to be a good citizen. The late Pope John Paul II was big on this idea of understanding and respecting other religions while still adhering to your owns faiths traditional teachings.

"You might learn a few things and after that I will be more than happy to discuss in greater detail things that you still might have questions on."

There is no need for condescension here, and please stop hawking your website to me, if I feel there is information to be gleaned from there I will visit it. I admit I am getting a little frustrated, I am trying to engage is some discourse and your every rebuttal seems to insult my understanding of "Islam" and then you simply citing a website. Like I said, if you have so much experience, refute everything I have said instead of just imply I don't know what I am talking about.
166 posted on 05/03/2005 7:13:59 PM PDT by Ksnavely
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To: dannyboy72
I do not doubt that there are man fine americans who are also of the islamic faith. My problem is their ability to protect our country's democracy over the teachings of their faith, as Christians must do each day. Can or will they separate the two? That question needs to be answered.

The answer is that some will separate the two and some won't. That's the same answer for other religions, including Christianity. That's why you treat individuals as individuals, and not make blanket assumptions based on their membership in some group. And that's why the U.S. Constitution forbids any "religious test" in determining a person's qualification for office.

For certain there are many Muslims who I'd trust to support our Constitution even over the teachings of their faith (if it came to that) than I would trust Pat Robertson to do so.

167 posted on 05/03/2005 7:14:31 PM PDT by dpwiener
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To: Wild Bill 10

No more than what the Christians did in their Crusades. My point is simply that you cannot judge an entire group of people based on the sins of past MEN done in the name of religion. I am aware of the Muslim crusades and their expansion into Spain and the Byzantine empire.


168 posted on 05/03/2005 7:16:12 PM PDT by Ksnavely
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To: Wild Bill 10
Furthermore the Crusades were not about fighting back, they were about the forceful retaking of the Holy Land. Again not a bad thing, but the horrific atrocities committed by the Christian armies to the indigenous populations during the crusades is what I am referring too. They did monstrous acts, none less so monstrous than the butchering of the entire city of Jerusalem. It can be noted that when Muslims first invaded Palestine and took Jerusalem, they did not butcher the citizens and even allowed freedom of religion (although you had to pay an extra tax)
170 posted on 05/03/2005 7:19:58 PM PDT by Ksnavely
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To: Ksnavely
So you suggest that everything I need to know about Islam, I can learn from a "Christian" site? I think that statement is quite revealing about the extent to which you have investigated this issue.

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You asked for a fish and I gave you a fishing pole.

Look at the site and read what Ali Sina has to say. If you have further questions then kindly ask me.

Faith Freedom International is a non-profit, grassroots world movement of ex-Muslims and all those who are concerned with the rise of the Islamic threat of terrorism.

FFI strives for freedom of (and from) faith in Islamic countries. We are against Hate, not Faith. We revere human rights not human beliefs. We endeavor to be factually correct, not politically correct.

This site is created to support those who wish to leave Islam and to provide answers to those who want to know the truth about it.

172 posted on 05/03/2005 7:20:29 PM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Wild Bill 10

You keep talking about my young age sir, but at least I have the maturity not to insult anyone personally. Unfortunately the same cannot be said of you.


173 posted on 05/03/2005 7:21:49 PM PDT by Ksnavely
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To: expatguy

Okay so now you suggest that everything I need to know about Islam, I should learn from a bunch of ex-muslims. Let me ask you something, how properly would I understand Christianity if I only listened to those who left the Church?


175 posted on 05/03/2005 7:23:31 PM PDT by Ksnavely
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To: expatguy
Seriously, Why do so many of you keep calling Islam a religion?

Because they believe in a supernatural being.

He is called Allah, and he doesn't have any relatives. - Tom

176 posted on 05/03/2005 7:23:49 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Wild Bill 10

huh?


177 posted on 05/03/2005 7:24:02 PM PDT by Ksnavely
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To: 26lemoncharlie
the Quran "is strictly a theft of Jewish theology."

Hard to argue with that.

178 posted on 05/03/2005 7:25:12 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: TonyRo76
Pat Robertson: Correct again!!!

Amazing, isn't it ?

180 posted on 05/03/2005 7:33:47 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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