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Abortion Okayed for 13 year Old in Florida
www.foxnews.com ^ | May 3, 2005 | Fox News

Posted on 05/03/2005 9:50:07 AM PDT by IMissPresidentReagan

A judge has ruled that a 13-year-old girl at the center of an abortion fight with the state may terminate her pregnancy.

Juvenile Judge Ronald Alvarez (search) on Monday ruled that the teen, who has been in state custody for four years, would not be physically or emotionally harmed by the procedure. Last week, Alvarez blocked the girl's abortion until a psychological evaluation was completed.

"He ruled that she is competent, that she has made a decision and that she has a right to act on that decision," said Howard Simon, executive director of the Florida American Civil Liberties Union (search), which represented the girl.

The state Department of Children & Families had argued that the girl, known only in court papers as L.G., (search) was too young and immature to decide for herself to have an abortion. The agency said state law prohibited the agency from consenting to the procedure.

Children and families officials declined to comment Monday on whether they planned to appeal Alvarez's decision.

"Since this is still in litigation, I can't speak to what's going on in court," agency spokeswoman Marilyn Munoz told the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.

Attorneys for the girl said the abortion was scheduled for Monday, but it was unclear whether the girl underwent the procedure.

The girl told the judge last week as part of the psychological evaluation process that she wanted an abortion, citing her age and no way to support a baby. The girl's attorneys argue that Florida law protects a minor's right to choose an abortion.

A measure is moving through the state Legislature to require notification of parents or guardians when girls seek abortion. In 2003, the Florida Supreme Court struck down a 1999 law requiring parents to be notified if their minor daughters seek an abortion.

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To: EternalVigilance
You and I have a diametrically opposed opinion of the meaning of the word 'right'.

Based on the information I have.

I don't believe the teen made the right decision but I believe the judge did make the right decision.

It would have been an activist move for him not to allow the abortion. If there was parental custody over this teen and the parents agreed to allow the abortion, we would have no problem with it on a legal basis.

If Jeb Bush wants to step in as some ultimate guardian for this teen and disallow the abortion, maybe he has that power...a judge doesn't have that power.( I'm not recommending Jeb do that )

41 posted on 05/03/2005 10:14:45 AM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: xzins

Florida really doesn't sound like the kind of place I'd want to retire to, that's for certain.


42 posted on 05/03/2005 10:15:44 AM PDT by twigs
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

Poor kids - both of them.


43 posted on 05/03/2005 10:15:50 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Terri Schindler was murdered - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan
its funny that a 13 year old isn't deemed mature enough to decide whether or not to smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol, or even have sex... but IS mature enough to decide to have an abortion...

A 13 year old isn't even mature enough to be held responsible for MURDER according to the supreme court ... which is a good thing for this girl since that's exactly what is about to happen.

8-9 million Jews killed by the Nazi ...
80-90 million babies killed by the liberals ...

someone needs to start an abortion holocaust museum.
44 posted on 05/03/2005 10:16:40 AM PDT by Nyboe
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

What is going on in Florida? Has everyone there gone crazy. Brace yourselves for a rough hurricane season.


45 posted on 05/03/2005 10:16:40 AM PDT by bella1 (red county, blue state)
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To: longtermmemmory

See post 30.


46 posted on 05/03/2005 10:17:34 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

We have an article posted a few days ago about Alaska paying for an abortion too.


47 posted on 05/03/2005 10:17:47 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Coleus

pro life ping


48 posted on 05/03/2005 10:18:40 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
This decision will be a landmark in allowing minors to proceed with abortions with out parental permission. No 13 year old is ready to have a child OR an abortion.

Nope. That case, in Florida, is pre-1990. It's referred to as "T.F."

The requirement to provide notification to parents was struck down in 2003, by the case linked below.

http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/flsupct/sc01-843/op-sc01-843.pdf

49 posted on 05/03/2005 10:19:32 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Jay777

PING!


50 posted on 05/03/2005 10:19:45 AM PDT by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Jim_Curtis

Uh oh, you're in for it now. I made a similar argument for parental rights and got majorly flamed. I don't want to start a "my judge is bigger than your judge" fight with the left. We'll all suffer.


51 posted on 05/03/2005 10:19:54 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: macaroona
So can a 13 year old consent to all other forms of medical treatment, including operations?

The minor can obtain any sexual related treatments, but only those. From birth control to treatment for STD's to abortion. That is ALL out of the hands of the parents as a matter of law.

52 posted on 05/03/2005 10:21:02 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

The baby exists and deserves life.


53 posted on 05/03/2005 10:22:06 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

Why didn't the ACLU provide a lawyer to protect the rights of the "other" child involved in this case?


54 posted on 05/03/2005 10:23:10 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: IMissPresidentReagan
Did he say that DCF could give consent and then they gave such consent, or did he say they MUST give consent?

The decision amonts to the DCF has no say in the matter. The minor is competnt to make her own decision regarding an abortion.

I'm curious as to what really goes on behind DCF doors, especially if 13 year olds are getting pregnant. A few years ago, weren't they (DCF) investigated for "loosing" a little girl?

Could be the same girl. This one was missing from DCF custody for a month, and never reported as such. She became pregnant during that absence.

55 posted on 05/03/2005 10:23:35 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

LOL! I know it's just a typo, but I think DFS "loosed" this girl too!


56 posted on 05/03/2005 10:25:50 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: IMissPresidentReagan
"...ruled that the teen, who has been in state custody for four years, would not ..."

Am I the only one?
How does a child in "state" custody (by inference for her protection and well being) get pregnant?

That to me is the story.

57 posted on 05/03/2005 10:26:41 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Jim_Curtis
It would have been an activist move for him not to allow the abortion. If there was parental custody over this teen and the parents agreed to allow the abortion, we would have no problem with it on a legal basis.

In Florida, even if the parents do NOT agree, a minor has a right to obtain an abortion. This right can be exercized without obtaining court permission in lieu of parental permission. The law cannot require the clinic to inform the parents of the minor's decision.

58 posted on 05/03/2005 10:28:37 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: the_Watchman

there was an attempt to appoint an attorney for the fetus but the FL appelate courts shot that down.


59 posted on 05/03/2005 10:28:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan
Why would the guardian know better than the child?

Next time my kid wants to eat dessert only, I'll just have to say, "Well, I guess a judge thinks YOU know better."

And when he grows older, and wants to stay out until 2:00 am, I'll just have to say, "The judges think you know better."

Of course, if a child can make such a huge, fundamental decision as to whether to kill another human being, they must be competent to determine their own diet, their own hours, their education, and their other behaviours.

These judges are idiots. Pure, unadulterated idiots.

60 posted on 05/03/2005 10:40:54 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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