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WE HAVE A POPE!!! (Cardinal Ratzinger-Pope Benedict XVI)
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Posted on 04/19/2005 8:53:39 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

WE HAVE A POPE!!!


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To: pa mom
Many did manage not to be enrolled in the Youth.

It is easy for us in 2005 to evaluate the decisions of young Germans in the 1940's. His country was under attack...he may have been compelled to defend his homeland, regardless of the leadership at the time.
I'm sure many avoided service in the critical months of 44-45. And many of them ended up hung from lamp posts on the orders of Generalfeldmarschall Schoerner.
1,681 posted on 04/19/2005 10:31:50 AM PDT by Lee_Atwater
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
:)

1,682 posted on 04/19/2005 10:31:50 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

He deserted the German Army.

Also, would PJP II have had a Nazi as his right hand?

(I know you're not accusing him of being a Nazi, but the Libs already are).


1,683 posted on 04/19/2005 10:31:53 AM PDT by Guillermo (Vote for Pedro)
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To: NYer

Yup!


1,684 posted on 04/19/2005 10:32:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Pope Benedict XVI: The Rat-Zinger!)
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To: Steven W.
the one & only good thing about all this foolishness is that it gives true believers a chance to repent from all the satanic practices that make up the Catholic Church.

With words like that, I feel sorry for you ;(

1,685 posted on 04/19/2005 10:32:02 AM PDT by Colosis (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: el_doctor2

St. Malachy hasn't really been wrong. Do you (anyone?) know what order Pope Benedict XVI was ordained into? I know he is Bavarian and they have a Benedictine tradition, as do many in my own area. That would really just ice the cake.


1,686 posted on 04/19/2005 10:32:08 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: murphE

Good question. ;o)


1,687 posted on 04/19/2005 10:32:13 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: amdgmary
Viva juevos
1,688 posted on 04/19/2005 10:32:13 AM PDT by al baby (Dick Trickle is not just a medical condition)
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To: JustPiper
I'm feeling very unsteady and not happy about this choice...and Benedict sent chills.

Why do you say this, JP?

1,689 posted on 04/19/2005 10:32:16 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Beach_Babe

From Kim Clement's Prophesies... more recently.
April 2, 2005- Portland, OR

A New Pope
“In this day where death took place from an office that was so high, a shaking shall begin through these summer months where great leaders of yesterday will lay down their sword and they shall meet their Maker. For the time of the death has come where I will remove some of the old and then millions and millions shall come into the Kingdom at one moment. For in 21 days from now a shaking will take place in the Roman Catholic Church. They will say, No it can not be why would they elect such a person? And then they will say, No we can not do it at this time. But it shall be done and I will bring the Spirit into the Roman Catholic Church and the Vatican there will be an infilling of the spirit of the Cardinals and the priests.

This day I have received a servant. This day you call him the Pope. This day I call him My son. This day you said a pope has died, this day I say a servant has won. I have raised up a new voice and a new Spirit that shall come into Italy and I shall invade Europe in a way that I have planned thousands of years ago. Where they shall say, What is happening in these places? The Spirit of God shall fall in buildings of rock and stone. It shall fall in places where they least believed it.

I will cause chaos and I will say to them now I will take people by the hundreds of millions and share my Spirit with them. For I will raise up a man that shall continue and they will say in the beginning he won’t be able to do it. But there shall be an experience after 33 days and a raising up and a resurrection. And a Spirit filled pope that will raise up a voice and he shall speak the truth and they will say, We must get him out of the way. But rejoice this day for there are deaths of many great leaders, because it is necessary so that I can raise up a new generation of men and women that will go in to the marketplace and raise up the name of Yahweh.

Great Leaders Pass
I’m going to welcome my leaders into eternity this year. Some of them old and frail. Some of them just breathing their last. This is the beginning of deaths. The beginning of many deaths. But would you say like My great apostle said, where is your sting? Where is your victory? Pray. For even as Eli is taken I’m welcoming them into my Kingdom. Even as a very old sick man died today, this is the beginning of many that will come and depart from this earth. Why O church of Mine are you sad? This is a new day. This is a day where many great young men shall be raised up. Can David truly reign while Saul lives? Can Samuel truly prophesy while Eli exists? No. I must remove so I can replace with a double portion and with a greater anointing.

Assassination Attempt
And some would say, what about the gatekeeper of this Nation? What about him? He prays and took the mantle of Ronald Reagan so that this Nation may experience great revival. Great breakthrough, great, great, great, great breakthrough. But truly there shall be one that shall attempt to lead three others to his side to kill and to take out. But am I with you tonight where My warriors will stop an assassination because your prayers will make the difference.

Tonight I looked to My people. I looked to the warriors of this city to cover the prophets. And in the White House you have a prophet. A man that shall call into being, things that are not existing yet. Why? Because he is not just a President. He is a shepherd and a prophet that shall deal with the eastern powers. He shall deal with the eastern gods and Babylon the great shall fall. Babylon the great shall fall, shall fall, shall fall. The Daniels that have prayed shall stand before the kings of the east. Your P:resident shall live because I called him to look for the fire and to look for the cloud in this nation. I called him to lead many that are in obscurity into the light and into the truth. Maybe you do not agree but agree with one thing. Jesus Christ is Savior and Lord and I will raise up a move of My Spirit in this nation as never before. Beginning the month of May there shall be one death and then another death but then ten others shall be raised up throughout the earth that shall be prophets to this nation.

I am giving you what you need tonight. I’m breaking the power of death over the righteous ones.


Resurrection of the Dead
"There is going to be a sound of triumph. Unusual miracles will begin to take place. Throughout this nation you have been provoked by Africa, you have been provoked by Asia, you have been provoked by South America. When millions are gathering together I have not left this nation You shall have the same and greater. The same miracles and greater. For there shall be the resurrection of the dead. I will raise to life that which has died. The resurrection of the dead is beginning.

www.kimclement.com


1,690 posted on 04/19/2005 10:32:16 AM PDT by Jaded (My sheeple, my sheeple....)
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To: LilDarlin
I know...let's have another Inquisition...all non-believers must either renounce their mistaken beliefs, or die a heretic!

The Inquisition only applied to heretical self-described Catholics. The Church has never claimed jurisdiction over non-Catholics.

1,691 posted on 04/19/2005 10:32:19 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: LilDarlin

Gosh, you are petty. And vacuous.


1,692 posted on 04/19/2005 10:32:19 AM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: Earthdweller; risk

We are very happy, he is the best, we need a man like that in Europe.


1,693 posted on 04/19/2005 10:32:26 AM PDT by Marie007 (La politique dénature et ruine l'amitié)
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To: Teacher317

Is Zell Miller bad because he is a registered democrat?

It is not like Sen Byrd who tries to deny his past for political advantage


1,694 posted on 04/19/2005 10:32:42 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: NYer; devoted

Could you please add Devoted to your Catholic ping lists?


1,695 posted on 04/19/2005 10:32:56 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Oh Lord help me this day to keep my big mouth shut)
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To: Howlin

Imagine what the security must be in that crowd.


1,696 posted on 04/19/2005 10:32:57 AM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: Howlin

Thanks Howlin. I can't understand why some people have to be like that.


1,697 posted on 04/19/2005 10:33:00 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Proud parent of Vermont's 6th grade state chess champion.)
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To: All

Please have a little patience with this non catholic guy with no time to read this whole thread. A few questions:

1. Has there ever been a German Pope? Seems if there has been it was a long time ago. I like the idea of trying to internationalize the church.

2. From what I've read, Ratzinger seems like a good guy, but why so old? The pressure of this job will readily kill even younger men. He was almost too old to even vote. Please don't tell me it is God's choice - I know that's the pat answer, but I don't buy it. Personally I think most of the cardinals have good qualifications, but anyone involved in hierarchies plays politics. It's part of the game and these guys even though men of God are still men.

3. What changes from JP II can be expected?

4. Could he have been chosen simply to fill a few years so the position can go back to an Italian (the fact that there were so many Italian popes in a row strongly suggests the choice is more than a little political)?

5. Will he fill cardinal vacancies with the same type of men that JP II did?

6. What is the state of the American cardinal delegation? Can we expect changes there (are any of them quite old)? I would like to see more conservative hierarchy here, but I understand that the church is in dire position concerning the priesthood here as well as with sisters. Anybody have an idea how the church can remain conservative yet be more attractive for younger people?

It's important for me that the church come to grips with its scandals (I think they did a bad job with the molestation problems - perhaps JP II was too ill or didn't want to get his hands dirty), but it also important that it maintains its values and be a force of constancy.

I will try to keep up for a while, but like so many I have work to do :^(


1,698 posted on 04/19/2005 10:33:08 AM PDT by furball4paws (Ho, Ho, Beri, Beri and Balls!)
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To: onyx
Pope Benedict XVI is the sixth Pope of my lifetime.
I was born under the Papacy of Pius XII... albeit near the end. :)

It's great to be an eyewitness to history. I was 8 years old when JPII was named the Pope of the RCC. :)

1,699 posted on 04/19/2005 10:33:14 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: Howlin

You are Exhibit A for an example of why a lot of people think conservatives are mean.

Go away, you pompous A$$.

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Don't let the poopheads ruin your joy. Just scroll past as I do.


1,700 posted on 04/19/2005 10:33:27 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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