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Don't Overestimate Hillary
Opinion Journal ^ | April 18, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT | JAY COST

Posted on 04/18/2005 6:06:12 AM PDT by Huck

Pollster Scott Rasmussen has begun publishing a regular "Hillary Meter." The purpose of this is to track Sen. Hillary Clinton's movement to the political center by determining how much of the American public considers her to be middle-of-the-road. I find this to be a fascinating story, because it says quite a bit about Hillary and her political skills--or lack thereof. It is, of course, gospel that Hillary Clinton is a political genius, or something to that effect. She is so brilliant that potential Democratic opponents are warned by pundits everywhere that she will work her secret devil arts on the poor fool who dares cross her. She is that good. Ostensibly, the only hope that humble conservatives have to keep her from being the first female president is some tawdry book by Ed Klein. I have never understood this.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: crusty; hillary; hillary2008; hillarymeter; neverwillbepresident; pantsuit; rasmussen; seahag; shrill; witch
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To: Huck

DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE BITCH


41 posted on 04/18/2005 7:51:21 AM PDT by 1903A3
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
Agreed. As I stated, that was more for self indulgent purposes.

One thing is certain, this will be both interesting to speculate on, and to see played out.

42 posted on 04/18/2005 8:07:49 AM PDT by G.Mason (I post to amuse myself ... why do you post?)
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To: 1903A3

1903A3 ... have a spare you'd like to sell? ;)


43 posted on 04/18/2005 8:09:21 AM PDT by G.Mason (I post to amuse myself ... why do you post?)
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To: Always Right

No offense please but I truly believe she is not electable, and for the following reasons:

1) She is the most polarizing figure in American politics today.

2) She will not win one single Red State, and will likely lose MN, PA, NH, OR, and WS (one of them, two, three, I don't know, but she will lose some).

3) There exists miles and miles of video of her ranting and raving about "the right wing conspiracy," Hillarycare, the travel office, FBI records, Vince Foster, abortion on demand, extreme gun control, and other policy positions that campaigns operatives will have a field day with.

4) She will not outraise any Republican candidate.

5) She could be damaged goods after a tough primary battle with Kerry, Edwards, possibly the return of Al Gore, Evan Bayh, etc.

6) I think the Repubs will nominate McCain or Allen, and I think both could kick her ass!


44 posted on 04/18/2005 8:22:42 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: moose2004
No offense please but I truly believe she is not electable, and for the following reasons:

I would have said the same thing for Al Gore. How could that idiot get more than 35% of the vote? The public has a short memory, and Hillary will reinvent herself. She is moderating all her positions and people will look at her and think, well she isn't all that bad. There is no Republican star that has risen yet. I really think the best chance to stop Hillary is in the primary, where her support of the Iraq War and moderating positions, may do her in.

45 posted on 04/18/2005 8:28:39 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right; moose2004

Actually, I'm hoping for Algore to jump back into the fray, and think he will. He's hoping to be Nixon redux: lose a close one in 2000, and come back 8 years later and win. But what really makes an Algore run appealing is the bloodbath he and the Witch will have in the primaries. They hate each other, which will make for some great comedy.


46 posted on 04/18/2005 8:35:48 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (From Roe v Wade to Terri Schiavo, the RATS have become a death cult...)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
Actually, I'm hoping for Algore....

Ironic, considering your screenname,.

47 posted on 04/18/2005 8:40:29 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: G.Mason
If I had one you would be 4th in the line
Sorry
48 posted on 04/18/2005 8:46:39 AM PDT by 1903A3
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To: Always Right

True, but think of the knives that will come out between him and the Witch. Also, he's given the GOP ample video proving he's become completely unhinged since 2000 if he should win the nomination. At this point, I'd consider him lucky to get 40% of the popular vote. But even if he didn't get the nomination, he would cause considerable damage to any RAT nominee, especially Her Heinousness, in the primaries.


49 posted on 04/18/2005 8:49:27 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (From Roe v Wade to Terri Schiavo, the RATS have become a death cult...)
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To: 1903A3
"If I had one you would be 4th in the line
Sorry
"

Somehow I knew that. And you're not the least bit sorry! ;)

50 posted on 04/18/2005 8:57:26 AM PDT by G.Mason (I post to amuse myself ... why do you post?)
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To: Huck
This is an excellent analysis of Rodham's style, but not her strategy. If she can count on the Blue States plus turning one or two Red States--especially if there is a socially conservative third party candidate--she's (ack!) the next president. Also, the career of Richard Nixon would seem to be the exception to Cost's thesis.
51 posted on 04/18/2005 9:15:29 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: Always Right

I just don't think Hillary can credibly reinvent herself to Red State voters, I don't see it. If anything I honestly believe she will lose rather decisively. But, I do look forward to seeing her go duck and goose hunting. Emily's List and other radical feminist groups will love that.


52 posted on 04/18/2005 9:33:16 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: moose2004

That's a good list you've started. I think it's time to put a list together and stress the list to the American people now until election day, "Why we can not allow Hillary to become president."

One that comes to mind right off is I don't want Bill Clinton to be the first lady. He's out of the White House, let's keep him out.


53 posted on 04/18/2005 10:01:14 AM PDT by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: Huck

"The only hope that humble conservatives have to keep her from being the first female president is some tawdry book by Ed Klein."

WRONG.Hitlery has skewed her own chances at being prez simply by being herself. When she runs her (pitiful attempt to be elected)campaign in 2008,she will get the spanking she so desperately deserves-and it's been a long time coming. All of her skeletons will come dancing out of the closets she's tried to keep nailed shut for so many years;
all of those who survived Arkancide are lying in wait for their chance to pounce.....salivating at the prospect of getting even with her.You cannot treat people the way Bill & Hill have for so long and continue to get away unscathed.
Her comeuppance-her Waterloo,as it will be-is on the horizon.Kerry's outing as a phony will pale in comparison when Hill steps up to get hers.I for one can hardly wait.


54 posted on 04/18/2005 10:10:25 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee
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To: gimme1ibertee
When she runs her (pitiful attempt to be elected)campaign in 2008,she will get the spanking she so desperately deserves-and it's been a long time coming.

Exactly. It is as I have always said when the subject of Hillary running for President comes up...she is unelectable for that office. It ain't gonna happen.

55 posted on 04/18/2005 10:17:13 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Remember that great love and great achievements involve great risk)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Or, to quote Kaiser Soze, "The greatest trick the devil pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

I thought it was Kaiser Soze who was quoting C.S. Lewis in Screwtape Letters.

56 posted on 04/18/2005 10:22:09 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Always Right
Bill Clinton had more skeletons in his closet than Saddam and he won. Skeletons in the closet are not an issue for the swing voters

Bill won because of Ross Perot. Hillary can't win unless there is another third party candidate. A neo-libertarian candidate could fulfill that role, but may actually win.
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57 posted on 04/18/2005 10:40:05 AM PDT by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: mugs99
Bill won because of Ross Perot.

I never bought into that myth. The Perot vote was split pretty much evenly between Dems and GOP. Bush lost it due to a sagging economy (mostly because of slow fed action) and Bush's flop on his no new taxes pledge. The race would have been slightly closer without Perot, but I don't think Perot was the deciding factor. Perot definitely played no role in Dole's lose.

58 posted on 04/18/2005 10:50:29 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

Yes, but Clinton was/is loved by the media. Big difference!


59 posted on 04/18/2005 11:03:02 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: Always Right
Perot definitely played no role in Dole's lose

The GOP gave Clinton the election by nominating Dole, the same way the Dems gave Bush the election by nominating Kerry.

The GOP is no longer the party of small government and many now see no difference between the DP and RP. The Southpark Republicans will determine the outcome of the next election, and they aren't blindly loyal to any party. They were the big increase in voter turnout in the last election, and their numbers will increase as more of them come of age.
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60 posted on 04/18/2005 11:23:26 AM PDT by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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