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Fixing immigration fairly
The Boston Globe ^ | April 12, 2005 | Ali Noorani

Posted on 04/12/2005 4:05:42 AM PDT by Boston Blackie

Invoking symbols ranging from the Revolutionary War to Martin Luther King Jr., armed vigilantes are patrolling a segment of the Arizona-Mexico border and taking the enforcement of immigration law into their own hands. While they claim only to offer support to the Border Patrol, the Mexican government is on edge, human rights activists have flooded the area, and President Bush has distanced himself from the effort.

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Thank you minutemen!
1 posted on 04/12/2005 4:05:42 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie

As always....the average joe says..to hell with this!...I'm heading for the Arizona border!


2 posted on 04/12/2005 4:08:17 AM PDT by Route101
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To: Boston Blackie
Hmm, where's the immigration heroine to some on FR, hillary?

She has not given any support to the minutemen.

3 posted on 04/12/2005 4:08:58 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Boston Blackie

If the government won't defend America, then it's citizens will!.


4 posted on 04/12/2005 4:09:45 AM PDT by Route101
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To: Boston Blackie
These vigilante groups are emboldened by political demagogues who, for example, file federal legislation allowing bounty hunters to pursue immigrants.

Bounty hunters going after immigrants? Shouldn’t that read criminals? The last I heard, there was no bounty on legal imigrants.

Many in the anti-immigration movement feel we cannot reform the immigration system until we get control of our borders.

I don’t believe many are “anti-immigration”, but are against illegal entry.

However, since our system does not provide opportunities for legal immigration, people are pushed underground.

????

That is all I could read. The writer for the Boston Globe is so far out of touch with reality it is frightening.

5 posted on 04/12/2005 4:14:01 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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"The writer is so far out of touch with reality......."

If that is the case, then FR is also out of touch.

The writer mentions his support for guest worker plans.

A recent poll of FR members show support of guest worker plans at over 2 to 1. 60% for and 28% opposed.

FR is a far right website and functions as an internet center of the anti immigrant crowd. It is safe to say, given the support at FR, that support of guest worker plans amongst the general population would be at 5, 6, or 7 to 1.

6 posted on 04/12/2005 4:57:12 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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However, since our system does not provide opportunities for legal immigration, people are pushed underground.

This is possibly the dumbest line ever written. It almost sounds as if the Boston Herald author is encouraging a pseudo-underground railroad to bypass the actual laws of the land.

There are a few who are against any type of immigration. I disagree with them but thats their perogative. However, this author makes it sound as being against illegal immigration is a horror. He also does not discern between legal immigration and illegal immigration.

He is an idiot. I would be willing to bet a sizable amount that he votes for Kennedy. Any takers? No? Didn't think so :)

7 posted on 04/12/2005 5:13:44 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Those who have sacked the sackers who were sacked for stealing my signature have been sacked.)
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BOUNTY HUNTERS????

Who offered bounties, how much? God the MM are effective beyond their numbers in driving these liberal SOBs crazy.


8 posted on 04/12/2005 5:14:43 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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"...since our system does not provide opportunities for legal immigration, people are pushed underground...."

Exactly what planet does the writer live on?

9 posted on 04/12/2005 5:26:25 AM PDT by NRA1995 ("The Minuteman Project: doing the job our government doesn't want to do")
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To: Boston Blackie
federal legislation allowing bounty hunters to pursue immigrants


10 posted on 04/12/2005 5:29:35 AM PDT by NRA1995 ("The Minuteman Project: doing the job our government doesn't want to do")
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To: Boston Blackie
Mexican Army Escorts Drug Runners

Illegals Cost Texas $4.7 Billion

11 posted on 04/12/2005 5:29:50 AM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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FR is a far right website and functions as an internet center of the anti immigrant crowd.

How many times must it be pointed out that we're objecting to ILLEGAL immigrants? Keep trying to frame it as an anti-immigrant bias if you want, but we both know that's just an attempt to spin this issue and demonize the anti-ILLEGAL immigrant crowd. A legit guest worker program would be OK with me, far-right-winger that I am, but not the version proposed by GWB. He wants to create a job magnet that would draw people here, but have no enforceable way to get them to go home again when their time is up.

12 posted on 04/12/2005 5:46:48 AM PDT by John Jorsett (email: mistersandiego yahoo.com (put the at sign in between those two))
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To: Boston Blackie
Invoking symbols ranging from the Revolutionary War to Martin Luther King Jr., armed vigilantes are patrolling a segment of the Arizona-Mexico border and taking the enforcement of immigration law into their own hands.

Invoking symbols ranging from the Revolutionary War to Martin Luther King Jr., first amendment rights armed vigilantes are patrolling a segment of the Arizona-Mexico border and taking the enforcement of immigration law into their own hands Ali Noorani takes pen in hand and plays fast and loose with the truth.

While they claim only to offer support to the Border Patrol,

They're not "claiming" to support the Border Patrol, they are supporting the BP

...the Mexican government is on edge,

The edge of a cliff? If so, somebody give 'em a shove.

...human rights activists have flooded the area,

They're always such a help. (/sarc)

...and President Bush has distanced himself from the effort.

Right after he called them vigilantes.

13 posted on 04/12/2005 5:53:16 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Personal Responsibility

"It almost sounds as if the Boston Herald author is encouraging a pseudo-underground railroad to bypass the actual laws of the land."

Boston Globe, not Boston Herald. Big difference.


14 posted on 04/12/2005 6:06:44 AM PDT by ncphinsfan
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To: HiJinx
Armed Vigilantes ping

...armed vigilantes are patrolling a segment of the Arizona-Mexico border and taking the enforcement of immigration law into their own hands.

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The likelihood for human tragedy is high.

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These vigilante groups are emboldened by political demagogues who, for example, file federal legislation allowing bounty hunters to pursue immigrants.

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Such individuals have no interest in our national security and are willing to dismiss America's values and history for the sake of political gain.

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15 posted on 04/12/2005 6:20:29 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Ben Ficklin

A “guest worker” is here legally. I have no problem with that. My problem is with the illegals.


16 posted on 04/12/2005 6:27:28 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Route101
Allowing enough immigration to happen legally so that our economy thrives, our communities prosper,

At current levels of legal immigration our schools, hospitals and social safety net are being crushed by the numbers.

This author think we are idiots if he thinks our communities will prosper if we let in more.

The only economic winners are the immigrants and employers. The American people will pay through the nose for this cheap labor subsidy and it does not matter if they come in legally or illegally. It is all about the overwhelming numbers.

17 posted on 04/12/2005 6:27:35 AM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: Boston Blackie

It's time that Americans directly address the ridiculous line of thinking made by advocates for unfettered immigration that asserts the "right" of every foreign individual in any foreign land to make some future claim to enter the US as an immigrant. The Constitution does not specify this "right". In fact, there have been many instances in the past where the American government restricted immigration in attempts to control the inflow of the numbers and types of immigrants to serve a greater national interest. It seems to me that national security would demand that we address the unbelievable danger we have now with over 10 MILLION ILLEGALS hidden away, untracked and unchecked, in the corners of our society at this time. I now believe the Statue of Liberty was a Trojan Horse given to us by the nefarious French to undermine our society by bamboozling the American people with malevolent mythology about "Give me your tired, your hungry, your poor, etc..." becoming part of our national creed and driving the unlearned to expect that we have some sort of responsibilituy to accept the dregs of the whole world ad infinitum!


18 posted on 04/12/2005 6:28:13 AM PDT by bowzer313
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To: Personal Responsibility

No taker here.


19 posted on 04/12/2005 6:28:15 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Americanexpat

Ain't that something?


20 posted on 04/12/2005 6:28:46 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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