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US drivers fume as gas prices soar (BBC)
BBC ^ | 04/09/2005

Posted on 04/09/2005 9:23:32 AM PDT by traumer

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To: dalereed
Try this. It's quite good - and has no fat. Much cheaper too....
81 posted on 04/09/2005 12:06:53 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer; All
This old post of mine has proven somewhat prophetic:

-Sticker Shock-$3 a gallon gas? Some links--

82 posted on 04/09/2005 12:13:54 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: traumer

That isnt good for anything but making chalk!!!!

I won't drink anything but whole milk, the rest of it is nothing but white colored water!

In WW2 I wouldn't even drink the milk if my mother had skimmed the cream off of the top!

I make up for my lack of milk consumption of only 3 gallons a week with a quart of ice cream every afternoon when I get home.


83 posted on 04/09/2005 12:15:16 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Chef Dajuan
C.) Make gasoline the number one priority in US refineries by executive order,

So when you need 5 qts of 10W30 to go along with that gasoline you're using, where exactly are you going to get it? A market that's paying 2.50 a gallon for gasoline is the best possible incentive for refineries to focus on gasoline to the most efficient degree. Heavy handed government decrees are never the answer.

D.) Don't export a drop to anyone else, period.

Oil is a commodity product with a global market, what exactly would this accomplish?

E.) Open the strategic reserves and flood the market with oil causing the price to drop.

The strategic reserves are just that, reserves to keep basic infrastructure and the military going in a real emergency. It would be criminally irresponsible to dump this on the market for the sake of temporarily further subsidizing the recreational driving culture which has gotten us into this predicament in the first place.

A year (or 18 months, or 2 years, or whatever inconsequential amount of time it is depending on the usage rate) it will have all been burned away one SUV tank at a time, now what?

84 posted on 04/09/2005 1:30:26 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: rellimpank

Ahh ok.. now I remember :)


85 posted on 04/09/2005 2:01:34 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: dalereed

"The only problem is you will have to kill every eniro in California first."

And every property rights advocate as well. But hey, why the hell should I have a right against my neighbor ruining my property?


86 posted on 04/09/2005 2:03:59 PM PDT by New Orleans Slim
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To: New Orleans Slim

No I'm not. I'm anti-globalist, anti-"we need to get along with the world", and very VERY anti-ENTANGLING ALLIACES.

I think we need to act like a sovereign nation again and to hell with being "allied" to anybody or any treaties.

Our Founding Fathers warned us about this, and you support it? You're not too familiar with what they said, are you?

I'm all for capitalism, I'm just MORE for Americanism and nationalism. America first and screw the rest of the world.

Oh, we need outta the UN, too.

http://jbs.org

http://getusout.org


87 posted on 04/09/2005 2:06:47 PM PDT by Chef Dajuan (BAM!)
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com
"know of hundreds of other people who have done the samething, but their top speed is low. Some of these garage built cars are getting close to 200 miles on a charge, but that is city driving at lower speeds. My point is that if someone can build an electric car with $8000 that will go 200 miles on a charge, why can't the auto manufactures do any better?"

The question I always ask and nver hear the answer is how much does it cost for the electricity to charge the vehicle? In the overall scheme is it cheaper then the gas to fill up a regular vehicle and get much greater distances?

88 posted on 04/09/2005 2:11:44 PM PDT by Trinity5
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To: eXe

--just got back from the wet dry lake west of the cathouses--now has a big flock of ducks ----along with the seagulls--


89 posted on 04/09/2005 2:13:07 PM PDT by rellimpank (urban dwellers don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm)
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To: GoldCountryRedneck
Don't paint ALL of us with the same brush! Many of us believe a balanced, responsible utilization of all energy resources IS possible, but have little opportunity in the current (and previous) political climate to advance that agenda Enviromentalists DO hold this nation hostage on many fronts. Perhaps the current rise in fuel prices will serve as a wake-up call and provide the leverage needed to initiate many of the programs(nuclear, more drilling, etc etc) the rest of us advocate. Breaking eggs to make omellets come to mind...

I agree! Me personally I have always been for nuclear power (and if nuclear power plants do not use recombiners, you get lots of hydrogen to use as fuel). Nebachadnezzar, by saying ALL of us are a fault is no better than the anti-American europeans saying we are evil or bad.

90 posted on 04/09/2005 2:14:20 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: buddyholly
Get these stinking liberals out of office so we can start to use this country's own resources!

Last I checked, both the White House and Congress are Republican controlled, as are many state houses and congresses.
91 posted on 04/09/2005 2:14:42 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: Chef Dajuan

Uh, You may want to read up on the Hindenberg. It wasn't the fault of hydrogen.


92 posted on 04/09/2005 2:16:57 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: chuckwalla
We can do without expensive coffee or easily find cheaper coffee. We cannot do without gas nor is there competition.

We can, drive automobiles that are far more efficient.

93 posted on 04/09/2005 2:17:00 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: rellimpank; Hildy
---it's well over $3.00/gal in the Death Valley area, but one can fill up in Pahrump, NV for about $2.35/gal---

Unless it's changed in the last 8 or months since I was there, Arizona is cheaper than Nevada by 15 cents or so....we stayed in Laughlin, NV but buzzed across the Colorade River to Bullhead City, AZ to top off the Camry...

94 posted on 04/09/2005 2:20:19 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (I don't drink and FReep...it just looks that way)
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To: CGTRWK

Oh please. American companies should be TOLD to sell to Americans or they lose every lil' advantage they have and will get taxed to the hilt beyond what they already are.

This "global market" crap is just that, globalist crap. Screw the rest of the world. WE deserve the best, and to hell with the Euros, the Chicoms, the Japs, and whoever else.

$2.50 a gallon HURTS ME. I can't, nor will I ride public transportation here because I work sometimes very late and there's no busses running after a certain time. Besides, the dregs of society ride the busses and I don't want to deal with stinky smelly bums with bad breath or a bunch of young 12 y-o girls screaming to each other. I'm still a high school student and this cuts into my saving money for chef school. This is becoming a financial burden to me. I want the same America my parents and grandparents had, I don't want us to be bidding with the rest of the developing world. Maybe we need to keep the third world the third world, and keep the rest of these tinhorn pissant "developing" countries where they belong...where they've been for the last few millenia.

And we shoulda destroyed the Chicoms in 1948 when we had the chance. To hades with them, their needs, or their desire for oil. Let all 2 billion of 'em walk and go back to an agrarian serfdom for all I care. This directly affects MY chances to make something of myself and threatens MY future success. How dare our Government fail in their constitutional duty to protect its citizens, which also includes financiallyas well as militarily.

Oh? Yeah we need more nukes. To drop on any upstart third-world catbox that trys to outbid us for oil that's RIGHTFULLY ours.

So I think they should release the oil reserves. They belong to US, the PEOPLE. Not the army or the government.

Boy there's a lot of fake conservative globaloists here. Where's the "America Firsters" at? Where's the patriots?

All I see here today are mostly apologists for Big Oil, Globalism, and Environmentalism.

Since we're a;ready in the M.E., we should invade Iran and take theirs. WE NEED THE OIL, The rest of the damn world can do without.

P*ss on them, America first.


95 posted on 04/09/2005 2:21:12 PM PDT by Chef Dajuan (BAM!)
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To: Chef Dajuan
I'm all for capitalism, I'm just MORE for Americanism and nationalism. America first and screw the rest of the world. Oh, we need outta the UN, too.

I agree. There is a difference between capitalism and free trade. Capitalize? fine but not if it ruins AMERICAN jobs, which outsourcing and free trade has already done. Free Trade with nations like China and alliances with the two-faced western Eurpean governments only give our enemies more resources to strike at us with and the UN seeks to destroy our soveriengty.

96 posted on 04/09/2005 2:22:13 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: Doe Eyes

Small cars with light aluminum and fiberglass bodies are DANGEROUS. I drive a Cavalier and I hate it.

Besides, you can't take any friends anywhere, noor can you go on any long trips comfortably or safely in a small car. As for your fuel-efficient stuff? I like power and speed. They don't have that.

The day they make a vehicle like a Hummer that has that kind of power with anything but a big diesel engine is decades and decades away.


97 posted on 04/09/2005 2:24:36 PM PDT by Chef Dajuan (BAM!)
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To: Quick1

Republicans my ghetto boo-tay!

They're RINOs


98 posted on 04/09/2005 2:25:50 PM PDT by Chef Dajuan (BAM!)
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To: Chef Dajuan
Small cars with light aluminum and fiberglass bodies are DANGEROUS

Size and weight are not the issue. Have your seen an Indy car hit the wall at 150+ mph, and the driver walks away? These are lightweight cars, with built in protection. However, the real safety issue with small cars, is getting run over by larger cars. We can solve that.

99 posted on 04/09/2005 2:31:19 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Quick1

No, it was a bomb made of flashbulbs and a small battery planted by anti-Nazi crewman Erich Spehl, who died of severe burns in the crash. Read Mooney's book. I have.

Oh, had it been filled with NON-EXPLOSIVE helium, it might still be flying today.

I don't buy the "static electricity" OR the "the outside cover was doped with flammable paint" excuses, either. The "Graf Zeppelin" suffered from leaks in almost all its cells from day one and flew through a lot of St Elmo's Fire, (static electricity), yet also flew safely for 10 years, including around the world, without incident and a perfect safety record.

Crewman Helmut Lau, standing in the tail fin, saw the detonation INSIDE gas cell close to the tail, nothing on the outside. Commander Rosendahl, CO of the NAS at Lakehurst, NJ saw a red glow INSIDE the "Hindenburg" before any flames appeared outside the ship.


100 posted on 04/09/2005 2:36:31 PM PDT by Chef Dajuan (BAM!)
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