Teacher forces preschooler to relieve herself in front of other students

WBIR (NBC-10 Knoxville) ^ | 4/7/5 | Jennifer Geiger , Producer

[SmithL]

A Knox County teacher is back on the job after making a pre-school student relieve herself in a bucket in front of other students.

It happened in early March to a little girl at the Sam E. Hill Family Community Center.

Sheila Knight was put on leave while the school system looked into the allegations.

DCS also investigated and found no evidence of abuse.

Knight later admitted to the accusations, called it "a severe lapse in judgment," and got a strong written reprimand. School officials say that was the strongest punishment allowed at the time.

Knight, who has worked for Knox County Schools for almost 20 years, is back on the job.

The student is in another classroom.

[Hi Heels]

But what, as has been previously stated, if the bathroom was occupied and the child started to "go" and the teacher began emergency procedures. As the middle sister of 13, I can tell you I've seen my mom do alot worse than slip a bucket under a urinating child. I remember standing on the road pointing straight in the air with my siblings so passerbys would look up instead of to the right where my mom and a sister were taking care of business. Some people on this thread think this has been blown out of porportion. That possibility exists.

[beezdotcom]

He did not call you a hereitc.

No kidding. Try reading it all again. That's why I said "call ME", "ME" in capitals, suggesting that, though I called them a heretic first, they should call ME the heretic if they disagreed with the later point.

[ArrogantBustard]

Nope, my dog is dumber than a box of rocks. Still love 'im though.

See? The act is working.

Now, how do you explain all those paw prints on your keyboard, and the unexplained credit card charges at PetCo?

It's a conspiracy, I tell you! Check out that documentary "Cats & Dogs" that was shown in the cinema a few years ago! IT'S ALL TRUE!!!!!

/tinfoil

[Clemenza]

This is perverted.

[Clemenza]

This is perverted.

[Hi Heels]

The churches don't take responsibility like that anymore as you probably know. If I had waited for that, we both would have starved to death. My point is that there are situation where what you have said is not necessarily true. Lots of medical bills from an ailing sibling forces both parents to work. A sudden disability forces mom out of the house. Life is too uncertain not to allow for flexibility.

[justshutupandtakeit]

I have no problem with parents being the principle teachers of their children when those parents are good, Godly people as most at FR are. That has always been the case with my family.

Sorry I do not post many quotes or any links. If my own words and understandings are not sufficient that is unfortunate. Few things are less enlightening than quote duels wherein most do not even apply to the point under discussion.

[Hi Heels]

Did you slip on a noodle today, or is your scripture software malfunctioning?

[justshutupandtakeit]

That quotation does not support the argument either and means that parents cannot take time off but must instruct their children even by their actions.

They cannot teach the words of God in one place and ignore those teachings in another. This is very similiar to what is taught in other places in the Bible too.

[politicket]

So, you're really not interested in knowing anything about the public school environment I currently have my kids in. My level of involvement has no bearing upon it. The age of the child isn't a factor. The curriculum isn't a factor. You're just willing to let a monolithic statement stand like that.

Until a child is ready to "fly from the nest" it is up to the parents to provide the primary education for their children.

By the way, I know plenty about the public school environment in general and I find it interesting that parents always respond with "Yes, the public schools have lots of problems, but MY child's school is actually good". If that were the case, then EVERY public school in the country would be great since every parent says that when asked.

I have posted the platform of the NEA on previous threads. If you would like, I can go look up those posts again so that you can refer to it, but the basic gist is that the schools are there to teach children Socialism.

"Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." -V.I. Lenin

[TruthConquers]

Ah, I see, he did not call you a heretic. Good!

You were trying to GET hime to call you a heretic. Hmmmm.

[politicket]

There is nothing wrong with leading your family by the Bible the problem is trying to apply it where it was never intended to apply. It was never intended to apply to science, math, foreign languages, medicine or even animal husbandry.

The Bible applies to everything in ALL areas of life.

[beezdotcom]

Until a child is ready to "fly from the nest" it is up to the parents to provide the primary education for their children.

I do exactly that. The secondary education they receive at the public school. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Perhaps you have some skewed perspective that "Algebra" and "Band" are part of their PRIMARY education, rather than morality and values. In that case, you need to go back and reread Proverbs.

[beezdotcom]

You were trying to GET hime to call you a heretic.

More like daring them to call me a heretic, given my stated belief. Not quite the same.

[politicket]

The churches don't take responsibility like that anymore as you probably know. If I had waited for that, we both would have starved to death. My point is that there are situation where what you have said is not necessarily true. Lots of medical bills from an ailing sibling forces both parents to work. A sudden disability forces mom out of the house. Life is too uncertain not to allow for flexibility.

Unfortunately you are correct regarding today's churches. They're more interested in becoming more like society rather than giving society a rock to hold on to.

You have stated cases that are emergencies and can cause extreme financial burden. I would hope that you agree the VAST majority of situations are where people don't want to give up their "comfortable" lifestyles and possibly relocate.

[tunneldiver]

Here is a newspaper article on this incident
http://www.wate.com/Global/story.asp?S=3176646

[justshutupandtakeit]

The media doesnt' try and play up these incidents just because it gets your tailfeathers in a spin by disclosing them at all. It should never have mentioned the Dollars or the Yates because they don't fit the norm? It never implied these were anything other than demented people or under the influence of demented people. Unlike those who like to attack any incident within a public school as being rampant in every ps.

All parents should be involved in their children's educations that is hardly earthshaking nor is it anything most good teachers beg for. But the point is some are more capable of doing good thereby than others.

[justshutupandtakeit]

I don't claim to be an expert in this but one starters the commandent is Thou shall not Murder rather than Thou shall not Kill.

[TruthConquers]

The verse "suggests" that it is when children are instructed (teaching) in the presence of their parents is best.

I would not call it an iron clad commandment, but it does point out a principle or precept.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Attempting to have you understand what was said is not backpedaling nor softening anything I said. If you don't understand I sometimes will restate something to make it more understandable.