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VANITY NOTICE: I've just learned that I am an "EXTREMIST!" WOO HOO!! [This is NOT an OPUS]
FreeRepublic.com | April 5th, 2005 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/05/2005 2:22:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

VANITY NOTICE: I've just learned that I am an "EXTREMIST!" WOO HOO!!

Nicest compliment I've received in a long time.

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

Y'all might want to be careful who you hang out with. If you are pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-constitution, pro-Liberty, pro-America and post to FreeRepublic.com, you risk being labeled as an "extremist."

That puts you in the company of extremist folks like George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Ben Franklin, & Co.

As extremists, "We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."

Speaking of quotes from our extremist forefathers, someone sent me these this morning:

George Washington - "..And let us indulge with caution the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion... Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail to the exclusion of religious principle."

John Adams - "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

James Madison - "We've staked the whole future of American civilization not on the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future ...upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God. The future and success of America is not in this Constitution, but in the laws of God upon which this Constitution is founded."

Noah Webster - "No truth is more evident to any mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people."

See you at the March for Justice!!

May God continue to bless and watch over America and all her extremists!


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KEYWORDS: antiopus; newbievanity; opuswannabe; rightwingextremist
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To: lugsoul
What "1980 encyclical?"

You know that encyclicals are written by Popes, don't you?

181 posted on 04/05/2005 3:31:54 PM PDT by B Knotts (Iohannes Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem.)
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To: Petronski
...she wasn't braindamaged "enough."

Good grief.

You're taking that quote out of context, and you know it.

182 posted on 04/05/2005 3:32:04 PM PDT by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: Modernman
No, you are trying to sidestep the issue and the subject at hand by dissembling and trying to go tangential in the discussion.
183 posted on 04/05/2005 3:32:05 PM PDT by Darksheare ("I'll tell you once more before I get off the floor, don't bring me clowns." -misheard lyrics)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well, 80 posts into the thread I still don't see the first question that came to my mind. Might we ask WHO called you an extremist? Hopefully it's some really high profile lib...


184 posted on 04/05/2005 3:32:33 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Ignorance)
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To: Jim Robinson

More 'extremist" quotes, Jim:

"[O]ur ancestors established their system of government on morality and religious sentiment. Moral habits, they believed, cannot safely be trusted on any other foundation than religious principle, nor any government be secure which is not supported by moral habits."
-- Daniel Webster, American Jurist and Senator




And from the "extremist" founder of the Republican Party:

"The only assurance of our nation's safety is to lay our foundation in morality and religion."
-- Abraham Lincoln


185 posted on 04/05/2005 3:33:16 PM PDT by FBD ( “The measure of a society is how it treats the least of us.)
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To: FBD

Some guys who put up a web site got it from the same place everyone else gets it? That serves to reinforce my point.


186 posted on 04/05/2005 3:33:34 PM PDT by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: Darksheare
Now, did the court order her death or not?

Sure. As a surrogate for MS's powers as a guardian. Not as an exercise of the state's powers to prosecute criminals.

187 posted on 04/05/2005 3:33:49 PM PDT by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: B Knotts

You do know that Popes sometimes speak on behalf of the Church and sometimes speak on behalf of themselves, don't you?


188 posted on 04/05/2005 3:34:37 PM PDT by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: Modernman
And the intents and purposes of the myriad of courts that examined this case. Courts made up of Republicans and Democrats. State and Federal courts.

That's not true. They were adjudicating whether she would be fed and hydrated. Courts don't make those determinations for dead people.

But you want to consider her dead as of 15 years ago because it soothes your conscience. Considering that she might NOT have been dead as of 15 years ago is too jarring to contemplate, even when the idea is smothered with all of your legalisms.

189 posted on 04/05/2005 3:34:43 PM PDT by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: jwalsh07
You're being disingenuous. The court was the actor, the decision maker.

As nothing more than a surrogate at MS's request, per the quote you posted.

190 posted on 04/05/2005 3:34:44 PM PDT by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: B Knotts
And good for you.

Seriously.

191 posted on 04/05/2005 3:34:45 PM PDT by alcuin ( I apologize for not being clear.getridofthateffinlooselipssinkshipsgesture)
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To: Modernman

Nothing by mouth & have the police haul away anyone who attempts to give her anything by mouth...

Did the court establish her desire to have her parents be kept away from her, cept when her husband was willing to allow it? Do you think she wished for someone to haul them off & charge them with contempt of court if they got too pushy in their concern for her care? Do you think all of that is what she meant when she said she didn't want to live like that (hooked up to machines)?

When you walk into court to litigate a civil matter, you do more than invoke it's jurisdiction. You invite it to use the full force of it's power & authority. Surrogate, smurrogate, ask anyone who has gone through a divorce.


192 posted on 04/05/2005 3:34:59 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Modernman

Wow, so you're saying that violent serial criminals on death row have more rights than an innocent PERSON whose only 'crime' was to be an 'inconvenience' to an adulterous husband and a drain on 'resources.'


193 posted on 04/05/2005 3:35:02 PM PDT by Darksheare ("I'll tell you once more before I get off the floor, don't bring me clowns." -misheard lyrics)
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To: MrDem
Our founding fathers would be stunned beyond belief if they were here today and saw that "their Constitution" had been so perverted as to give women the right to kill their unborn children. STUNNED!
I agree, but the event that spurred the march was the Supreme Court declaring it unconstitutional to execute children.
194 posted on 04/05/2005 3:35:25 PM PDT by firequarrel
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To: jpsb
"If you want Americans to have respect for and obey the law then the legal system has to have two things happen. 1) the process must be seen as fair. 2) The outcome must resemble justice"

And the principle that underpins and guarantees the above"

All are equal before the law.

195 posted on 04/05/2005 3:35:31 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Zogby must have lost a lot of clients in the past couple of cycles. Evidently he has decided to forgo being a politician in favor of being a technician for a bit. But, I for one, won't ever trust him again though I do think his methodology here is oreders of magnitude better than the slop we were getting advocating TS's demise.


196 posted on 04/05/2005 3:35:37 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Modernman

There is no fitting context which can make that comment appropriate. It presupposes and belies a mind trying to justify killing a disabled woman.


197 posted on 04/05/2005 3:36:13 PM PDT by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: jwalsh07
The Schindlers lawyers did the best they could but not the best that could be done.

That's probably accurate. That being said, since they did not request a jury trial, it is not a valid complaint to say that TS did not receive a jury trial.

198 posted on 04/05/2005 3:36:14 PM PDT by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: firequarrel

In the days of our Founders, if a kid 12 years of age or so murdered someone, he would have been hanged until death.
Besides, back then, if you were 12 you weren't considered a 'kid'.


199 posted on 04/05/2005 3:36:56 PM PDT by Darksheare ("I'll tell you once more before I get off the floor, don't bring me clowns." -misheard lyrics)
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To: jpsb
What happens to people that are not permitted to eat food or drink water?

They die.

200 posted on 04/05/2005 3:37:20 PM PDT by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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