Posted on 04/04/2005 2:36:18 PM PDT by gdogdaily
One of the most pertinent questions a man can ask himself is, “What exactly do I want from women?” Once that has been answered, and it should not take long, the next question becomes: “What do women want from me?” That, alas, is far more complicated to discern.
The unfortunate reality is that while most men are clueless about what women want, many women also are confused concerning their desires. It’s commonly assumed that women, as a group, desire children and marriage but that simply is not the case anymore. In the last few years attention has been given to “the female player” and absurdities like “men who get used for sex,” which is as paradoxical as the phrase “the fork was exploited as a eating utensil.” Yet, silly as this mumbo jumbo is, it doesn’t stop the media from sensationalizing the topic, nor does it prevent many young women from following the lead of the press. The New York Timesrecently covered, in a celebratory tone, the phenomenon of girls eschewing commitment in exchange for short-term pleasures:
“Yes, they take pride in having thrown off the shackles of earlier generations of single women. They are not waiting on Friday night hoping ‘he’ will call. They make the first move. They happily see two or three guys simultaneously. Spontaneity is crucial, but even more is a good clean exit strategy from any guy who turns out to be Mr. Not Exactly…While men are obviously central to the ‘The Hookup Handbook’ ethos (do you want to hook up with a Metroman or a Himbo tonight?), boyfriends are most definitely not. ‘A relationship isn't the easiest thing to maintain, but swearing off boys isn't a viable option either,’ the chapter on ‘Defensive Non-Dating’ states...
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Destroy ? They're just making it more inclusive so everybody that previously was not in your family .... now is in your family
Ahh....sweet, sweet Socialism.
No need to duck. This has been a phenomenon observed at least 150 years. Men always hope the girl they choose will never change.
Women always execute their plan to transform their so-so choice into the "perfect man". Whether they like it or not. Whether they cooperate or not.
In this day 'n age, do women still go to college to get a MRS degree? Isn't that now Mrs. Bill Gates scored?
Men get married expecting the woman to NOT change, but she does.
Women get married expecting the man TO change, but he doesn't.
My wife has only been dead about a year so I'm not dating but one woman actually hit on me at the wake. It wasn't my imagination, my sister was next to me and heard it and wanted to slug her.
I look forward to the next few years
Sitting on the sidelines watching the cultural collapse of the US - bump.
Over 100 grand for an Ivy league husband?! No thanks, you can meet them in a bar for free.
I like these rules better:
TO WOMEN EVERYWHERE
FROM A MAN WHO'S HAD ENOUGH
1. Learn to work the toilet seat. If it's up, put it down. We need it up, you need it down. You don't hear us bitching about you leaving it down.
2. All men see in only 16 colors. Peach is a fruit, not a
color.
3. If you think you're fat, you probably are. Don't ask us. We refuse to answer.
4. Don't cut your hair. Ever. Long hair is always more
attractive than short hair.
5. One of the big reasons guys fear getting married is that married women always cut their hair, and by then you're stuck with her.
6. If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
7. Sometimes, we're not thinking about you. Live with it.
8. Don't ask us what we're thinking about unless you are
prepared to discuss such topics as gas, the shotgun formation, or ERA's.
9. Sunday = Sports. It's like the full moon or the changing of the tides. Let it be.
10. Ask for what you want. Let's be clear on this one: Subtle hints don't work. Strong hints don't work. Really obvious hints don't work.
11. No, we don't know what day it is. We never will. Mark anniversaries on the calendar.
12. Yes and No are perfectly acceptable answers to almost every question.
13. Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it. That's what we do. Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for.
14. A headache that lasts for 17 months is a problem. See a doctor.
15. Foreign films are best left to foreigners.
16. Check your oil.
17. It is neither in your best interest nor ours to take the quiz together. No, it doesn't matter which quiz.
18. If something we said can be interpreted two ways, and one of the ways makes you sad or angry, we meant the other one.
19. Whenever possible, please say whatever you have to say during commercials.
20. If we ask what's wrong and you say "nothing", we will act like nothing's wrong. We know you're lying, but it's just not worth the hassle.
21. STOP CRYING!!!!
What a foul little man you are, Dallas Claymore. Unhappy with the shallowness women who will sleep with you without commitment? Perhaps you should stop fishing in the shallow end of the pool.
18? At 18 I was a flaming liberal fool. You have a much shorter learning curve, congratulations.
If I could get my friends to turn off the TV, I wouldn't be here at FR. I'm not a nerd I swear! But no one else follows politics!
What is wrong with the care and raising of children she loves being all a mother needs?
Oh, we know well what the women's movement has accomplished but some of us are not very impressed by what it has done to families.
I read that book!
To be completely honest. I think that the average age of those getting married is rising in part because with more and more women "giving it up" easier, men don't see as much of a need to get married.
L8R
I'm entering my 3rd month of dating a wonderful Korean-born woman whom I absolutely adore. She doesn't want lavish things, but does like a nice dinner out once in awhile and I do lots of the little things here and there which she likes the most. When I tried to do those things for Euro-stock American women, I usually got a resulting expression on their faces that read "I wonder how cheap this was" while they feign surprise, enjoyment and say "Oh, THANK YOU".
Is that Helen Thomas's future?????
Ten years ago, I was working in the tech industry. One of the scientists in my department was this 40+ woman, who was your pretty stereotypical baby boomer: ardent leftist as well as a part time artist. She and I became friends, and I attended several parties at her loft outside of Harvard Square. Most of her friends were these middle aged feminists who were also the mothers of petri-dish babies.
They would regail me with stories about their visits to the fertility clinics and the 'donor' fathers (who they'd picked out of catalogs: MIT Grad, Actor, etc.)
They all proclaimed how happy they were, how they didn't need men to be fulfilled and how their kids would all grow up happy and well-adjusted.
Despite their claims to the contrary, they all struck me as very sad, desperate women. Too afraid of the committment of marriage, and overwhelmed by the prospect of parenting a child on their own.
Sad babes.
Our minister gave a Bible study for parents about teaching children about marriage and sex. He is of the opinion that marrying early is a good thing. The couple finish growing up together and grow closer because of that.
Me, I waited until 30, but it was not by choice. I would have married much younger if there was a good man around willing, but I am very happy with my husband and three children.
Best of luck to you in your search!
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