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Theresa Marie Schindler... May Daily Thread 2005 CALL TO ACTION: Our Fight for Justice Continues
Various Sources ^ | April 3, 2005 | floriduh voter

Posted on 04/03/2005 5:19:05 PM PDT by floriduh voter

Freeper friends, Terri's Memorial Service is this coming Tuesday night in Gulfport, Florida. Please check and see if www.baynews9.com will carry it on the internet.

I'm still sad and in disbelief that the rescue fell apart. It was on it's way. We were waiting there for ambulances but instead two Sheriff's cruisers arrived.

There's much work to do. There are many work groups here carrying on for Terri.

The April Daily Thread as before will be a meeting place, a news digest and even in the midst of sorrow, a place to make friends.

I want to thank everyone who did everything humanly possible for Terri and her family. Terri's safe now from a room with the blinds closed, strange people and armed guards. She'd still be here if it wasn't for judicial despots who it appears have never read the Declaration of Independence or the U.S. or Florida Constitution.

Freepers, Republicans and Democrats alike voted against Terri or didn't do enough to save her from Judge Greer.

I'd like to thank Ralph Nader, David Boies, Joe Lieberman and Wesley Smith, Phd, author of Forced Exit.

I have disdain for the Naughty Nine Republicans in the Florida Senate who vote "No" which barred Terri from legislative relief. The GOP House Members who voted "No" on Terri, shame on them too.

WHAT EXACTLY IS THE AGENDA AND WHO IS IN CHARGE? I'm afraid that Judge George Greer is in charge - of everything.

PLEASE HELP FLORIDA... CALL YOUR SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN/WOMEN.

HELP US. We feel stranded by tyranny today, but Florida is ripe for change. We will demand it together as Americans.

Thanks, FV


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To: floriduh voter; All
These tv stations also have stories.

WTLV Terri Schiavo's Parents Celebrate Mass in Jacksonville

FOx 30 video Remembering Terri Schiavo

TV4 Priest: Schiavo's, Pope's Struggles Mirrored Each Other

1,101 posted on 04/13/2005 5:18:53 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: tutstar; TAdams8591; Ohioan from Florida; floriduh voter; wisconsinconservative; pickyourpoison; ...

New at The Empire Journal

http://www.theempirejournal.com/04120503_florida_sen.htm

EXCLUSIVE

Florida Sen. King Has Financial Ties to Hospice, Centonze/Schiavo
By June Maxam and Ginger Berlin
Follow the money.

The fate of Terri Schindler-Schiavo was ironically decided over a meal of fried chicken and salad in a Tallahassee restaurant when nine Republicans of the Florida Senate met and resolved not to support legislation being introduced by Sen. Daniel Webster to help save the 41-year-old disabled woman from her death by court-ordered starvation and dehydration.


1,102 posted on 04/13/2005 5:20:40 AM PDT by Scoop 1
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To: All; Scoop 1

"New at The Empire Journal

http://www.theempirejournal.com/04120503_florida_sen.htm

EXCLUSIVE

Florida Sen. King Has Financial Ties to Hospice, Centonze/Schiavo
By June Maxam and Ginger Berlin
Follow the money.

The fate of Terri Schindler-Schiavo was ironically decided over a meal of fried chicken and salad in a Tallahassee restaurant when nine Republicans of the Florida Senate met and resolved not to support legislation being introduced by Sen. Daniel Webster to help save the 41-year-old disabled woman from her death by court-ordered starvation and dehydration."

I hope that Floridians will get the word out about these people JUST BEFORE THEIR NEXT ELECTION, by writing letters to editors and calling talk shows.

Judge Greer was reelected after treating Terri horribly, so apparently Floridians need to be reminded.



1,103 posted on 04/13/2005 6:51:21 AM PDT by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: All

Terri Schiavo and the Tale of Two Husbands

By Ken Concannon
4/14/05

The starvation/dehydration death of Terri Schiavo, which dominated the news during Holy Week and right up until the death of Pope John Paul II, introduced into the public vernacular a term previously limited primarily to the medical profession and bioethicists – "persistent vegetative state" (PVS).

PVS is a condition first coined in 1972 to describe patients who are not in a coma or considered to be brain dead, but nevertheless appear to have no cognitive brain function. In a study published in 1994 by the Multi-Society Task Force (MTSF) on PVS the MTSF concluded that patients in PVS show no evidence of awareness or thinking, and do not communicate. None of their actions appear purposeful, learned or voluntary. Most patients in PVS continue to breathe on their own, circulate blood normally, have periods of waking and sleeping, may move their limbs, smile, shed tears and respond to external stimuli. Some may grunt, groan or scream.

PVS can be caused by acute brain injury, chronic degenerative disease, or developmental malformations. The injury or disease often results in profound damage to, if not complete destruction of, the cerebral cortex — the region of the brain believed to be responsible for all higher, cognitive functioning. Because of the cerebral cortex damage the MTSF in its report stated that PVS patients are "noncognitive, nonsentient, and incapable of conscious experience."

Although one would think that "noncognitive, nonsentient" patients "incapable of conscious experience" would be considered, for all practical purposes, already dead, the law does not use the PVS diagnosis as a definition of death. And for good reason. The medical profession, as in the case of Terri Schiavo, does not always agree on the diagnosis. And sometimes, as in the case of Kate Adamson, the vegetative diagnosis is inaccurate.

In 1995 33-year-old Adamson, a housewife and mother of two toddlers, suffered a double brainstem stroke that left her completely paralyzed. For almost 70 days she was totally unresponsive. Her doctors, assuming that her cognitive capabilities were gone, pulled a feeding tube that had been inserted earlier. They just ripped it out, the way Terri Schiavo’s feeding tube was ripped out, because the doctors believed the paralyzed Adamson was "nonsentient."

They were wrong. In an interview with Bill O’Reilly of television’s "The O’Reilly Factor" in November of 2003 Adamson, now recovered from her misdiagnosed "vegetative" state, described the feeding tube removal as "sheer torture." She also talked of the "hunger pains" during the eight days she was disconnected from her feeding tube.

Adamson now feeds herself, runs her family, is a motivational speaker, and has written a book, Kate's Journey: Triumph Over Adversity. Unlike Terri Schiavo, her feeding tube was reinstated, and she received aggressive rehabilitation.

The life-saving difference between Kate and Terri, was Kate’s husband, Steven Klugman. Unlike Michael Schiavo, Klugman didn’t believe his wife was in a vegetative state, and when the doctors disconnected her, Klugman, a lawyer, yelled, screamed, and threatened to sue them. In his own words: "I threatened to sue the whole world, and I told them that their best course was to try to save her, and maybe they wouldn't get sued."

Unlike Terri’s husband, Kate’s husband fought for her life. And that was the crucial difference.

When Kate Adamson appeared on "The O’Reilly Factor" two years ago, she appeared as an advocate for Terri Schiavo’s life. Last month she again witnessed on behalf of saving the disabled Florida woman, this time testifying before the Florida House Judiciary Committee. She began her testimony with this statement:

"They wanted me to die. They did. They told my husband it would be better for him – to let me go. It would be better for the children – to let me go. They said it would be better – for me.

"I was unable to move – just lying there. Couldn’t speak. Couldn’t even blink my eyes – But I was alive! I could hear - every - word - they - were - saying. ‘Shall we unplug her? Remove life support? We could just let her go. She will be out of her misery and we can go home.’ And they were saying all this within five - feet - of - my - bed. Were they inconsiderate? Calloused? No. They considered me comatose – unconscious – a vegetable -- carrots don’t have feelings."

Adamson’s efforts on behalf of Terri Schiavo proved unsuccessful. While Michael Schiavo’s lawyer, euthanasia activist George Felos, described to the media the peace and tranquility of Terri’s death process, Father Frank Pavone and members of the Schindler family gathered at Terri’s bedside. In a recent email from Priests for Life, Father Pavone described Terri’s "death process" as "quite horrifying. She was dehydrating to death, and looked it. Her face had an expression of dread and sorrow. In my 16 years as a priest, I never saw anything like it before."

Though they shared similar disabilities, Kate’s and Terri’s lives, thanks to their husbands, went in different directions. Terri Schiavo is now a martyr to the culture of death. Kate Adamson speaks eloquently as a witness to the culture of life, as evidenced by her closing remarks before the Florida House Judiciary Committee:

"They have already come for me and I am still here," she said. "Now, mind you no one meant me any harm. Yet the good wishes of the foolish and the evil can bring death.

"The measure of a society is how they treat the least of us. What we do to the helpless marks our souls forever. What we allow to happen to the disabled labels us forever. You have heard me. Could you, as a panel, kill me?"

http://www.catholicherald.com/articles/05articles/2husbands.htm


1,104 posted on 04/13/2005 7:15:42 AM PDT by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: Scoop 1

Great article, scoop.

I admire your persistence and thoroughness with this matter. I hope that "someone" will decide to do the right thing and pursue/authorize a criminal investigation. All it takes is a phone call or stroke of the pen.


1,105 posted on 04/13/2005 7:39:53 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Pepper777
DeLay did far more for Terri than most other politicians. What upsets me is how those who could have saved her, refused to lift a finger - dismissed as if she were an annoying bug. I will always remember Jeb Bush (also a Roman Catholic) in connection with his disregard of Terri just as Ted Kennedy always brings to mind Mary Jo.

Seems to me that that those demanding the dismissal of DeLay were not as nearly as vocal, if at all, about calling for the resignation of Clinton for his bizarre behavior, which was far more disruptive and deviant than anything DeLay is accused of.

1,106 posted on 04/13/2005 8:21:59 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Scoop 1
The STENCH permeating Terri's case leaves one feeling perpetually nauseous.

Interesting that Jodi and Michael may well have met BEFORE Terri's collapse in 1990.

1,107 posted on 04/13/2005 8:28:19 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: amdgmary
"Unlike Terri’s husband, Kate’s husband fought for her life. And that was the crucial difference."

It certainly is.

1,108 posted on 04/13/2005 8:32:54 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: All

excellent Empire Journal story - worth sending quotes to media.

I find the traditional media reporting regarding the removal of judges is just another way of the liberal media dominating the conversation about Terri Schiavo. As a disabled person she was inhumanely and questionably treated - which can be documented. Why is this not on the forefront of the discussion? The spending of the jury award, the placement in a hospice, the guardianship paperwork negligence... etc.

I also find congressional/executive fingerpointing at judges is a way of deflecting blame for abyssmal work on an issue which obviously moved hundreds of thousands of people to activate without leadership from the mainstream media. People became involved by recognizing the mistreatment - not because the media informed them of anything. The interests of those who activated and Terri Schiavo were poorly represented by their political balancing act. As a result, they served neither their constituency or Terri Schiavo and still suffered heat at the hands of liberal media.

Michael Schiavo et.al deserve a continued spotlight which illuminates the suffering of Terri Schiavo whose only crime was to become a disabled American.


1,109 posted on 04/13/2005 8:34:22 AM PDT by a5478 (a5478)
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To: TAdams8591
"Unlike Terri’s husband, Kate’s husband fought for her life. And that was the crucial difference."

It certainly is.

You said it!

1,110 posted on 04/13/2005 8:34:24 AM PDT by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: All

Bob and Mary Schindler speak to Melvin Jenkins, who uses a wheelchair, after a service for their daughter, Terri Schiavo, at the Immaculate Conception Church in Jacksonville on Tuesday.

1,111 posted on 04/13/2005 8:38:49 AM PDT by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: All; Ohioan from Florida; tutstar; floriduh voter

Before You Sign...On the Dotted Line

by Paul A. Byrne, M.D.

EXCERPTS http://mysite.verizon.net/cureltd/id24.html

In 1990, Congress passed the "Patient Self-Determination Act." As much of the legislation enacted amidst the escalating disrespect for life that ensued in the aftermath of Roe v. Wade and Karen Ann Quinlan, the Act does not enhance but debases the legitimate rights of patients and physicians, while undermining everyone's right to life. Under the law, anyone entering a healthcare facility that receives any federal funds will be proselytized, if not pushed, to sign the misnamed "living will."

The "Living Will"

The myriad dangers of the suicidal living will are well-documented if not well-known. The latter is not surprising given a mass media that covers up the mass murder of the abortion holocaust, while promoting the impending euthanasia holocaust through death peddlers like Abigail Dear Abby Van Buren, who has hawked the living will for decades. Euthanasia, however, has as much to do with the ballyhooed "right to die" as abortion has to do with the equally amoral and inane slogan "freedom of choice." The plain truth is that euthanasia, like abortion, is something done to, not chosen by, its victims.

Even when the victim cooperates in his death by signing a living will, it is rarely with full knowledge of the nature or consequences of his act and more often represents his surrender to the cultural pessimism that corrodes his God-given will to live.The trick, then, is to convince the potential victim of euthanasia, which includes everyone reading these lines, to sign his death warrant on the dotted line, especially, the person who has been forewarned about the deadly dangers of the living will by those "pro-life fanatics."


1,112 posted on 04/13/2005 8:54:52 AM PDT by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: a5478
Great post.

Truly great.

In my mind, I now think of michael schiavo, Mr. cruel beyond measure himself, having to hide. To hide his face, to live confined, to have to live now, and forever, with the label he has earned. Murderer.

After the ten years or more that he denied Terri everything...from the smallest of comforts to the high tech therapies and speech pathologys now available, from denial of swallowing therapy to outings in the sunshine, all of it, NOW...HE HAS TO LIVE THE LIFE HE ASSIGNED TERRI.

Of course, he can eat and drink...another basic he leveled against her....so that he could kill her. And, of course, he does not have to deal with those trained to help the dying day in and day out, nope, he does not have to suffer that horror...but still, mr. murdering moneybags has lost something incredibly important...freedom to move about in the public arena.

People know who he is and what he has done. As they do regarding felos, greer and mary labyak.

Wherever he goes, wherever he hides, he will feel the massive outrage and disgust we feel regarding his heinous and satanic effort to rid himself of the 'bitch', as he was known to refer to Terri.

1,113 posted on 04/13/2005 10:20:36 AM PDT by Republic (Our Father in Heaven touched the Pope, who KNEW of Terri, Terri got her mass, VATICAN STYLE!)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Good, the more the better!


1,114 posted on 04/13/2005 10:40:37 AM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Canadian Outrage

GOOD FOR YOU~! Think I will make another call as well.


1,115 posted on 04/13/2005 10:41:53 AM PDT by Republic (Our Father in Heaven touched the Pope, who KNEW of Terri, Terri got her mass, VATICAN STYLE!)
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To: amdgmary; Ohioan from Florida; MeekOneGOP; Salvation; nickcarraway; NYer; nicmarlo; PhilDragoo; ...

bttt and ping. Jim King is Jeb's and Greer's boss pass it on.


1,116 posted on 04/13/2005 10:56:54 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.theempirejournal.com Demand the Impeachment of Judge Greer...No More!!!!)
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To: lakey

so keep the birthday cake coming is your advanced directive. works for me.


1,117 posted on 04/13/2005 10:59:04 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.theempirejournal.com Demand the Impeachment of Judge Greer...No More!!!!)
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To: tutstar
Terri Schiavo left a great legacy: Because of her, many people are closer to God," Cowart said. "Let us go out and proclaim the gospel of life."

So true.

1,118 posted on 04/13/2005 11:00:55 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.theempirejournal.com Demand the Impeachment of Judge Greer...No More!!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance; tutstar

Jim King's chicken dinner deciding Terri's fate at TEJ.


1,119 posted on 04/13/2005 11:02:31 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.theempirejournal.com Demand the Impeachment of Judge Greer...No More!!!!)
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To: Scoop 1

Another fine job, Scoop! My hats off to ya!


1,120 posted on 04/13/2005 11:20:59 AM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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