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Pope John Paul II Has Gone to His Heavenly Home with God 2:37 pm EST
BBC News Online World Edition ^ | April 1, 2005

Posted on 03/31/2005 9:54:01 PM PST by bd476

Edited on 04/02/2005 7:53:51 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

April 2, 2005 7:25 a.m. PST Update

From Rome CBS Radio News: (rough transcription of update)

The Vatican has been transparent in allowing news media access to information about Pope John Paul II. Pope John Paul II is responsible for the change in how the Vatican views the media.

At this time, Pope John Paul II's condition is unchanged.

His heart and kidneys are failing. The Vatican said that this does not suggest that he is suffering.

He has a compromised state of consciousness, yet he is not in a comatose state.

He drifts in and out of consciousness. One Vatican source said that it appeared that the Pope is resting with his eyes shut.

Pope John Paul II has responded by opening his eyes when spoken to. He has also tried to speak in the past few hours.

An Aide assisted Pope John Paul II in writing a message to his beloved staff gathered in the Papal apartment. The Pope asked them not to be sad for him.

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Special report live from CBS News at the Vatican April 2, 2005


(This is a rough transcript of the CBS news conference with the Italian translator and Vatican representative)

Substantially and varied (blood values?) very serious very grave

We hope to serve ... earlier initial state of consciousness AT 7:30 a.m. we celebrated of Mass with the Pope he is breathing, labored or slightly...

Pope had in mind young people...

This is difficult ...

Pope seemed to refer to young people when he repeatedly seemed to say "I've been looking for you and now you've come to me... "

We've been able to reconstruct what he said, this is what he said.

We have this update now for you until this evening...

I cannot confirm the particular rumors ... (inaudible)

Probably around 5:30 or 6:00 p.m. we will have another update for you...

He is not in a coma.

When we speak to him he opens his eyes.

He seems to be receptive.

We are not talking about coma here.

Question from media: Who is always present with the Pope?

Answer: Monsignor (inaudible) the other Secretary to the Holy Father the three Nuns of the Holy Father, his personal physician.

Thank you very much and we will see you later.

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'Serious' Pope has heart failure

Pope John Paul II has suffered a cardiac arrest and is in a grave condition, the Vatican has announced.

The urgent communique came hours after the Pope's health worsened with a high fever caused by an infection.

"Following a urinary tract infection, septic shock and a cardiocirculatory collapse occurred," Vatican spokesman Navarro-Valls said in his statement.

The Pope was also given the last rites - the Catholic sacrament for the sick and dying, the spokesman said.

But he said the pontiff remained "conscious, lucid and tranquil".

The emergency department chief at Rome's Gemelli hospital said on Thursday the Pope would not be taken to hospital for the time being.

Some observers said this suggested it meant he was too weak to be moved at all.

Sombre mood

Small groups of faithful gathered at St Peter's Square in Rome to pray for the Pope's speedy recovery.

However, the mood in the Vatican is sombre, the BBC's David Willey in Rome reports.

Prelates are openly expressing pessimism about the possibility of the Pope ever resuming the guidance of his one billion-strong church, our correspondent says.

The pontiff is being fed through a nasal tube to aid his recovery from throat surgery last month.

The Pope had appeared briefly at the window of his Vatican apartment on Easter Sunday to bless the faithful, but was not able to speak.

It was the first time during his 26-year pontificate that the Pope delegated the main Easter ceremonies to his cardinals.

'Lost weight'

On Thursday afternoon, the Pope's temperature soared to 40 degrees C (104F), Italian media reported.

He developed breathing troubles and has difficulty in swallowing as a result of the progress of Parkinson's Disease, an incurable condition from which he has been suffering for nearly a decade.

Since his throat surgery, he has lost about 19 kg (42 lb), Father Hejmo said, which leaves him more vulnerable to infections.

The Pope's private doctor Renato Buzzetti is in charge of his medical treatment in his private apartment at the Vatican.

So far this year the Pope has had two spells in hospital where he received treatment for breathing problems and underwent an operation on his throat.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: johnpaul; johnpaulii; jp2; pope; rc; romancatholic; theholysee; vatican
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To: bd476; Petronski


I have literally camped out all night
on the couch in front of the TV. Looks
like he'll make Sunday?


961 posted on 04/02/2005 10:08:46 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: Petronski; onyx; MEG33; PhiKapMom; TomGuy; Squantos; lainie; BurbankKarl; MeekOneGOP; Mo1; kingu; ..
April 2, 2005 9:55 a.m. PST Transcript of Special Report Live from CBS News at the Vatican
962 posted on 04/02/2005 10:11:47 AM PST by bd476
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To: onyx

I think so.


963 posted on 04/02/2005 10:14:42 AM PST by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: Petronski


I've slept "some" -- off and on, have you?


964 posted on 04/02/2005 10:20:14 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity,Thanks for the ping.


965 posted on 04/02/2005 10:21:39 AM PST by fatima (John Paul II We love you.)
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To: bd476


"Irreversible condition."
Yes, he's on his way,.. Thy will be done.


966 posted on 04/02/2005 10:21:48 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: onyx

About 4 until 11. My head hit the pillow and BAM it was time to get up. I guess I needed it.


967 posted on 04/02/2005 10:22:26 AM PST by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: Petronski

GOOD, glad you slept.
Our livingroom is still a wreck from
2 of the grandchildren yesterday, but
I have zero energy. It'll have to remain
in present condition for a while longer.


968 posted on 04/02/2005 10:24:40 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: bd476
Hey, thanks so much for the updates. :)

969 posted on 04/02/2005 10:24:41 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: bd476


Have you slept at all?


970 posted on 04/02/2005 10:25:12 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: onyx

No not yet. Hope you slept well.


971 posted on 04/02/2005 10:25:50 AM PST by bd476
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To: onyx

I also camped out in front of the TV because they said at one point that his death was expected soon but then my eyes got heavy after a couple of hours and I napped on and off. The weather is terrible here with heavy winds that rattle the windows so I woke frequently.


972 posted on 04/02/2005 10:30:12 AM PST by ruoflaw
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To: bd476

you should try and sleep a little.


973 posted on 04/02/2005 10:32:27 AM PST by ruoflaw
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To: ruoflaw; All
Get some sleep.

Kate

974 posted on 04/02/2005 10:35:56 AM PST by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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To: bd476

I hope you're able to rest:
(lying down on a couch in front of TV)?


975 posted on 04/02/2005 10:37:30 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: oceanperch
oceanperch wrote: "Just in per CNN Pope has muttered a few words... If anyone knows per fact let us know. thanks."

Oceanperch, here is a transcript I typed up of the last Vatican news conference medical statement:

April 2, 2005 0955 PST Transcript Special Report Live from CBS News at Vatican

976 posted on 04/02/2005 10:44:08 AM PST by bd476
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To: onyx
I'll get some sleep soon. Thanks for asking. :)
977 posted on 04/02/2005 10:45:15 AM PST by bd476
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To: MeekOneGOP

Oh good, did you get the most recent one?


978 posted on 04/02/2005 10:45:56 AM PST by bd476
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To: onyx
How are you doing? A couple times it sounded as if they were going to go to "breaking news" in the middle of the night. Did you sleep at all?

Thankfully the message that he was talking a little and thinking of young people trumped the more sober news.

979 posted on 04/02/2005 10:48:06 AM PST by bd476
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To: onyx

Looks like I am not the only one that couldn't sleep but finally fell asleep at about 3:30 this morning with the TV on and then I figured I would wake up to the Pope's passing but he is still hanging on -- now beginning to think he is going to make it to Sunday.


980 posted on 04/02/2005 10:57:50 AM PST by PhiKapMom
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