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TERRI SCHIAVO: MARCH 30th DAY 13 NO FOOD/WATER...YOU CAN BE HER GOOD SAMARITAN.
Various sources PREVIOUS FR Thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1372014/posts ^ | 03/30/05 | Various

Posted on 03/30/2005 4:40:57 PM PST by tutstar

Defying all odds Terri is still alive.

Are you being targeted for euthanasia? (Schiavo case only the tip of the iceberg!)

Schiavo parents plan new US Supreme Court appeal

Jeb Bush's political obituary

Florida lawmaker says he will consider impeaching Schiavo Judge Greer


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: allterriallthetime; anotherterrithread; criminaljudges; easter; euthanasia; felos; florida; frspatronsaint; giveitarest; impotentleaders; libel; necrofelos; parentsrights; schiavorepublic; shesaliveinchristjim; shesdeadjim; sunshamestate; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: PhilDragoo

Phil, you know this is really one of your better works.
Your work is appreciated, even if we don't say it every time. We all think it.
I remember your angle one as well. Oh and I think you did the one with Devil Horns growing out of Greers head.

I am thinking of writing a book, it will be Pegitas prayers, and your and Wampus's graphic interspersed with news stories.

It hink it woudl make a good book. Of couse I would have to cut you in on the action!


461 posted on 03/30/2005 10:32:45 PM PST by ExPatInFrance (JUDGE GREER: LAST RITES INSTEAD OF CIVIL RIGHTS, "The Law of the case is she is going to Die!")
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To: Krodg

That's strange.

Who told you to drop it?

Did they give you a reason...other than "the discussion ended an hour earlier"?

Like I said in my earlier post...

How are we to understand if no one explains???


462 posted on 03/30/2005 10:32:54 PM PST by Schiminie (always praying for Terri)
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To: ExPatInFrance

None so blind as those who will not see.


463 posted on 03/30/2005 10:34:41 PM PST by valleygal
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To: ExPatInFrance
Donate my share to The Committee To Put A Stake In The Heart Of Vampires Who Feed On Human Blood.

By their deeds shall ye know them.

464 posted on 03/30/2005 10:35:42 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: All

Continuing in prayer for this mother's child ...

Sleep, my child, and peace attend thee,
All through the night.
Guardian Angels God will lend thee,
All through the night.
Soft the drowsy hours are creeping,
Hill and vale in slumber steeping,
I, my loving Vigil keeping,
All through the night.


465 posted on 03/30/2005 10:35:58 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: ExPatInFrance

Yes, that a tragity of this scale could happen in the full light of day causes me to lose all faith that the nation is governmented by men of character. Top to botton, Democrat GOP our leaders are worthless. Utterly worthless at anything other then makig pretty speeches.


466 posted on 03/30/2005 10:37:15 PM PST by jpsb
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To: pollywog

IMO the the traditional hymns are both more worshipful and thought provoking. The music itself had a rousing quality that is hard to explain to anyone who has never heard them. I'm sitting here thumbing thru an old 1940 Broadman Hymnal - it's amazing.

BTW - remember shaped notes? :)


467 posted on 03/30/2005 10:37:28 PM PST by Wampus SC (Sorry, Ben Franklin - we couldn't keep it.)
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To: ExPatInFrance

What happened to the pic of Terri? Why are posts deleted?


468 posted on 03/30/2005 10:39:18 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: PhilDragoo

Thanks for that beautiful picture.

Bump to #459.


469 posted on 03/30/2005 10:39:50 PM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: Pegita

Pegita,
And with your wonderful prayer, really I am going to bed now.

I remember one time you wrote that I could go to sleep because God was standing watch. It was a time when there was a lot going on and I was tensed up about it. Your words calmed me and I got a good nights rest. I still remember feeling really refreshed the next morning.

Another beautiful pray many thanks and good night.


470 posted on 03/30/2005 10:40:16 PM PST by ExPatInFrance (JUDGE GREER: LAST RITES INSTEAD OF CIVIL RIGHTS, "The Law of the case is she is going to Die!")
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To: FR_addict

re your post about Greta living in Clearwater, do you think maybe she may have second thoughts about her "golden years" with all she has learned interviewing people about Terri?

Guess it depends on if she really has any brain at all, I just cannot fathom people buying into the outer space-alien theory, Wow.


471 posted on 03/30/2005 10:45:34 PM PST by oreolady (Not terrorists, not nukes, the danger to us is pro-euthanasia mindsets)
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To: All

Peggy Noonan even sounds resigned to the end. Ann Coulter still sounds fiery though....I wish there was a call to action to actually accomplish something. What ever happened to that green beret guy that was going to do a citizens arrest on Greer and Shiavo? With all the info on Greer on theempirejournal (that was certainly represented poorly tonight) who has the authority to tell Greer, no authority, we're feeding her?


472 posted on 03/30/2005 10:46:04 PM PST by justche (praying for Teri)
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To: jpsb

Did anybody see the new video of Terri on CNN? Where did they get them? They're getting ready to show them again! It shows her being tested by the doctors!


473 posted on 03/30/2005 10:47:45 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: Jrabbit

OMG....she responds to her mom....but not to Michael. And Jodi was there! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


474 posted on 03/30/2005 10:50:56 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: valleygal

... He just doesn't like FL anymore.

.....

Tell him to get the heck out of there. This is what is going on and it will affect all in Florida.


From unsourced information posted by mercyme on another thread.

Summary-

"When Michael Schiavo first asked Judge Shames to allow him to remove terri's feeding tube in 1997, and then again in Judge Greer's court in 1998, the law at the time was not enough to let Greer order the removal of Terri's feeding tube under Terri's circumstances, so the law had to be changed in favor of Michael Schiavo.

In 1998, the florida legislature created the Florida Panel on End-of-Life Care for the purpose of revising the 765 statute for end-of-life issues. They were charged with coming up with the findings for changes in the law for the Florida legislature. Their findings were made law

Bill CB/CB/SB 2228, which revised the 765 as of October 1, 1999, also gave the authority to the End-to-Life panel to make findings for the legislature and that these findings were to made into law.

The legislature essentially gave them the authority to dictate to the legislature what changes to put in their bills. So the role of End-of-Life panel was not simply to make recommendations, but had the authority to determine what changes would be made into law.

The 765 law was revised in 1999 to include "end-stage condition" as a reason to withdraw life prolonging procedures along with persistant vegetative state and terminal illness. This was also put into law. Geldart also redefines terminal illness as not just conditions that cause death, but "irreversible" conditions or conditions "with no reasonable chance of recovery". Felos used this definition for the argument that Terri is terminal because she has a "irreversible" neurological condition with no "reasonable hope for recovery".

Geldart also details the the change in law that permitted nutrition and hydration to be considered medical treatment and the changes to life-prolonging procedures in the absence of advanced directives. Project Grace member William Leonard then points out a common scenario in Florida in his article: an elderly couple moves from out of state to Florida and then one spouse dies within a year 's time. Leonard then expands the definition of family to a neighbor, friend or caregiver who is now in the position of articulating the wishes of the elderly person to withdraw medical treatment, rather than "some distant relative".

And indeed the 765 law was changed to allow an "friend" to say that the person wanted life-pronging procedures withdrawn without a written directive. This also effected the outcome of Terri's case. Authors of Project Grace advocate for terminal sedation (Basta), withdraw of nutrition and hydration (Basta), and the refusal of physician to provide "futile" treatment as unethical even with advanced directive asking for treatments (Doty).

They also state that advanced directives providing for treatment should not carry the same weight as directives withdrawing care, and advanced directives should not compel the physican to provide them, regardless if the patient needs them (Doty). Doty is part of the Florida Bioethics Network as well as Project Grace. One of the changes in the law in CB/CB/SB 2228 includes the Bioethics Network as part of the process of withdrawing care. "




475 posted on 03/30/2005 10:53:38 PM PST by ClancyJ (The Death Culture Movement - All of us are hosed no matter what we do)
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To: All
Input needed on 2 things discussed in the previous thread.

1) An annual Terri day: Her birthday? The day the tube was removed? The day of a main court ruling? Ideas? Also, what do we do on that day? Prayer vigils are definitely in. Do we also try to inform people how Terri relates to the death cult of euthanasia? To an out of control judiciary? To historical precedents?

2) There's interest in a bumper sticker. I can't print them - though I'm working on that. I'm working on a few designs. Here's what I need to know:
---->: Is the plaid ribbon copyrighted?
----> What shade of purple is Terri's favorite color - light, dark, lavender, etc.?

TIA
476 posted on 03/30/2005 10:54:53 PM PST by Wampus SC (Sorry, Ben Franklin - we couldn't keep it.)
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To: ClancyJ

Terri never had a chance....


477 posted on 03/30/2005 10:55:17 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: Jrabbit

I just saw it, MS and the death doctor with Terry in 2002.


478 posted on 03/30/2005 10:56:38 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Wampus SC

I don't have any answers, but I think bumper stickers are a great idea


479 posted on 03/30/2005 10:57:55 PM PST by justche (praying for Teri)
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To: Jrabbit
"Terri never had a chance...."

No, just not enough life people to put serious heat on elected Repubs. That Jeb could not get a Terri law out of the Fla legislature shows just how weak the pro-life movement is.

480 posted on 03/30/2005 11:01:51 PM PST by jpsb
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