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Part 7 - EASTER SUNDAY -NO FOOD OR WATER 10-11TH DAYS- SHE'S FIGHTING TO LIVE [Schiavo]
Continuing thread ^ | 03/27/05 | various

Posted on 03/27/2005 6:45:08 PM PST by tutstar

After much hard work that has gone on for well over a year, it's been a week and 2 days since Terri has been without food and hydration.

Many asking the question how we could have become such a callous society as to deny a helpless human the basic necessity of food and water.

Terri's plight has brought to light many problems in the judicial system and opened our eyes to the fact that some laws need to be changed.

The work will continue to protect helpless individuals from suffering the same injustice as Terri.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: criminaljudges; easter; euthanasia; felos; florida; impotentleaders; libel; necrofelos; sunshamestate; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: DJ MacWoW

STill a state judge long as he's part of the 6th judicial circuit, which he is. State, not the county is his employer...unless Florida doesn't have county run courts?


941 posted on 03/28/2005 11:53:16 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: amdgmary
"I have a duty to follow the law. I was criticized for pushing as far as I could; now I'm criticized for not doing enough. It probably is a pretty good sign that I was in the right place," Bush said.

For his own sake as a human being, Jeb probably should have stayed in bed today, rather than issue this sick, self-serving statement. Rush's end of the program is so boring, how can anyone still listen?

942 posted on 03/28/2005 11:54:12 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: juzcuz
Yes. It is highly hypocritical.

But, when is that a "first" for the USA?

We have a lot hypocrisy which spans Demo and GOP administration alike.

For example: We have all kinds of elite units operating along the Syrian/Iraqi border, working with the Iraqi government, to try to keep people from infiltrating into Iraqi terrority--the ultimate in Border Control, backed by our $$$--yet we cannot do a damned thing with 3000 illegals coming across our OWN border a day...and then the President angry at Americans who take action because they are fed up.

And, as you said, we critize North Korean for a policy of starvation, and we rush to Indonesia to fill the stomachs of those poor people, but we cannot find it in ourselves to have our own leaders in the US step in to assist someone being starved to death in the public spotlight.

So many churches in America and a "Red State" victory for Bush, then such a widespread laissez faire attitude about Terri.

943 posted on 03/28/2005 11:54:21 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR and FREEPERS show their COURAGE if they can equally oppose G.O.P & Dems, on major/moral issues)
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To: Orlando

very interesting...never thought of that before.. she would indeed, win by a landslide if she were to do that.. and seriously guys.. at this point in our country, would it be that big of a leap from where we are now?


944 posted on 03/28/2005 11:56:30 AM PST by Awestruck (Yes, prayer does help and it is important~!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
STill a state judge long as he's part of the 6th judicial circuit, which he is.State, not the county is his employer...unless Florida doesn't have county run courts?

I don't know. Pinellas/Pasco counties have a state judge?

I'll keep checking for clarification.

945 posted on 03/28/2005 11:57:52 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Life support. canned, frozen or fresh, it's good for you!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I think you are right that the popular Greer is a STATE judge. He is elected only in Pinellas and Pasco counties. That was probably the reason for the other poster's confusion.


946 posted on 03/28/2005 11:58:01 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: TruthSetsUFree

"Unfortunately, there were those in Congress who insisted on changing the wording of that law from "shall" grant a de novo hearing to "may" grant a de novo hearing. "

Nope...the wording said "shall" and it also said that the findings from previous court records could not be used. Look up the statute.


947 posted on 03/28/2005 11:59:31 AM PST by LegalEagle61
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To: DJ MacWoW

Greer is the god of this world.


948 posted on 03/28/2005 11:59:44 AM PST by Saundra Duffy ("Where there's life, there's hope." Theresa Marie SCHINDLER)
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To: tuckrdout

I think we've all been fooled.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."


949 posted on 03/28/2005 12:00:24 PM PST by SvdByFaith (not my will, but THY will oh Lord!)
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To: LegalEagle61

So, therefore GWB could have intervened last Tuesday to enforce a new federal law, one not yet declared unconstitutional by the popular judiciary.


950 posted on 03/28/2005 12:00:30 PM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: tuckrdout
Tell me - what is the source of this "Greer is a probate judge" talking point people around here keep repeating. I'm curious because I'd like to know who thinks it is a good idea to encourage the repetition of falsehoods in an effort to score points.

BTW - Greer is a Circuit Court judge - the highest level of sitting trial judges in the Florida system.

951 posted on 03/28/2005 12:00:37 PM PST by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

So Greer is Caesar of days of old.


952 posted on 03/28/2005 12:01:09 PM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Theodore R.

Greer is a murderer (or will be) nothing more nothing less.


953 posted on 03/28/2005 12:02:22 PM PST by sfimom (AP 'Decisions to end feedings for patients goes on all the time' (Does this make it OK???))
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To: lula
We might as well develop one computer/biometric/medicinal high tech pipeline across the land, perhaps connected by fiber optic and high speed computer networks. From the offices of major poll taking companies in the USA--Gallup, USA Today, CBS News, etc --straight to the set top boxes in the offices of corrupt circular court justices on the take--then in turn, right into the feeding tubes and breathing devices in hospitals and hospices for the handicapped nationwide.

In one fell swoop, the US public can vote their 70% pro-death message, and 'Snap!', just like that, we could get judicial decisions backing it up and then automatically shut off hundreds of life sustaining machines nationwide. (Of course, The President and State Governors could just have a passord-protected, "Read Only" monitoring that would allow them to get status reports, but not to enter the system with any kind of authority. After all, "I can't DO anything! [whine]") That would eliminate a lot of the wrangled and posturing, and midnight Congressional votes upsetting congressman from the weekend rest.

Wonder if HHS could devise such a convenient, on-line, public opinion/euthanasia system for the US infrastructure? Maybe IBM and some of the German pharmaceuticals could bid in consortium


954 posted on 03/28/2005 12:02:24 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR and FREEPERS show their COURAGE if they can equally oppose G.O.P & Dems, on major/moral issues)
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To: lugsoul

Guess that means he is higher than JEB BUSH huh? He seems to think so!


955 posted on 03/28/2005 12:02:48 PM PST by Halls
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

"I'm not justifying him. He may do probate as part of his judge work, but he is a member of the 6th Florida Circuit Court system, which means he's more than a county judge, he's a state judge."

You are correct


956 posted on 03/28/2005 12:03:19 PM PST by LegalEagle61
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

They do, but I think I read that they just handle misdemeanors, small claims, etc. Greer is a state judge, and his responsibilities are of probate for the circuit.


957 posted on 03/28/2005 12:04:11 PM PST by kenth
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To: Theodore R.

yes indeed he could have....but i guess is choosing not to


958 posted on 03/28/2005 12:04:57 PM PST by LegalEagle61
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Laissez-faire attitude, confusion about what to do about non-terminal handicapped people (love them, if you ask me, and care for them), fear about being in that situation themselves, and an awfully easy acceptance of state sanctioned euthanasia (or whatever you want to call it - pretend mercy-killing) -

A lot of rot in the soul. Or mis-information about right and wrong. Dis-information by those who want this new way.

Compare:

Mother Teresa found a man who was dying, took him home, cleaned him, gave him a clean place to lie, and was there for him as he died.

MS take his handicapped wife out of a nice nursing home, puts her into a home for the dying for years, denies her as much of her comforts as possible, and dehydrates her so she will die, supposedly to put her out of a misery he couldn't prove she was in.

Tell me which is showing compassion and love of neighbor?


959 posted on 03/28/2005 12:05:49 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: LegalEagle61

I think GW just exposed his way to reform social security.


960 posted on 03/28/2005 12:06:06 PM PST by SvdByFaith (not my will, but THY will oh Lord!)
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