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Police 'Showdown' Averted ['Team of State Agents Were En Route to Seize Terri']
Miami Herald ^ | Sat, Mar. 26, 2005 | CAROL MARBIN MILLER

Posted on 03/25/2005 7:55:28 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Hours after a judge ordered that Terri Schiavo was not to be removed from her hospice, a team of state agents were en route to seize her and have her feeding tube reinserted -- but they stopped short when local police told them they would enforce the judge's order, The Herald has learned.

Agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement told police in Pinellas Park, the small town where Schiavo lies at Hospice Woodside, on Thursday that they were on the way to take her to a hospital to resume her feeding.

For a brief period, local police, who have officers at the hospice to keep protesters out, prepared for what sources called ``a showdown.''

In the end, the squad from the FDLE and the Department of Children & Families backed down, apparently concerned about confronting local police outside the hospice.

''We told them that unless they had the judge with them when they came, they were not going to get in,'' said a source with the local police.

''The FDLE called to say they were en route to the scene,'' said an official with the city police who requested anonymity. ``When the sheriff's department and our department told them they could not enforce their order, they backed off.''

The incident,known only to a few and related to The Herald by three different sources involved in Thursday's events, underscores the intense emotion and murky legal terrain that the Schiavo case has created. It also shows that agencies answering directly to Gov. Jeb Bush had planned to use a wrinkle in Florida law that would have allowed them to legally get around the judge's order. The exception in the law allows public agencies to freeze a judge's order whenever an agency appeals it.

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To: Darkwolf377
As someone who argued against the Nuclear Option, I say to Bill Frist, push the damned red button...

Have you changed your mind on that?

921 posted on 03/25/2005 11:18:46 PM PST by gogeo (Often wrong but seldom in doubt.)
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To: NorCalRepub

I think religious people do not so much get upset at reasoning not supported by biblical reasoning (ie silent on the issue) as they get really mad at reasoning that goes directly against biblical teachings (ie direct command) ex. do not kill the innocent.


922 posted on 03/25/2005 11:19:02 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: Just mythoughts

Christ had told them explicitly that he had to be captured. Note that He did *not* tell Peter he was wrong to have a sword! (In fact earlier Jesus told him that it was a suitable weapon.) So in that case, Peter was wrong because of explicit revelation otherwise.

God has NOT told us explicitly that Terri has to be held in the hell-clutches until she dies. Only those who want to be complacent in the time of evil.


923 posted on 03/25/2005 11:19:04 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: NorCalRepub

"ah yes......cowards and traitors....name calling is so effective......"

So, you would rather use force? Force must be avoided and used only as a last resort and where appropriate. It is yet not appropriate nor is it the last resort. The President or the Governor still have the options of issuing an EO or send in the federal marshalls or state troopers, but this should have been done days ago. Now time is running out and the President or Governor must resort to the last resort, I think.


924 posted on 03/25/2005 11:19:10 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: bonfire

I'll start worrying about that... sometime...


925 posted on 03/25/2005 11:19:29 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: NorCalRepub
...you give ammo to those that think the religious right is looney....

There is a vast political range between those who believe in an absolute religious mandate and those who would accept anything generated through a court out of fear of rocking the boat. If anyone is an embarassing extremist it is probably you.
926 posted on 03/25/2005 11:19:54 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: MTOrlando

Very good analysis. JB is still in a bind and I would not want to be in his shoes.


927 posted on 03/25/2005 11:21:11 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: Chad Fairbanks
He doesn't make law, and he doesn't get to pick and choose what laws he executes.

And when the statutes and constitution say one thing, and the courts another, he has to exercise discretion. The constitution and statutes say a crime is being committed. The courts have ordered he not interfere. His exercise of discretion is to surrender to the will of the judiciary. Do you disagree?
928 posted on 03/25/2005 11:21:22 PM PST by MTOrlando
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To: Chad Fairbanks

There's nothing in the constitution about his hands being tied when "ruled upon by judges" when those judges' rulings are illegal. The court's only recourse is to try to impeach him for it, and it's the Legislature which would judge that. A Legislature which has little humor for the runaway courts of Florida.


929 posted on 03/25/2005 11:21:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: kralcmot
no matter how much i disagree with this judge, with this court and those appellate courts, i believe that we must respect the Rule of Law...

I believe you've taken one of the most magnificent ideas ever and turned it into a cliche.

930 posted on 03/25/2005 11:22:05 PM PST by gogeo (Often wrong but seldom in doubt.)
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To: hleewilder; Chad Fairbanks

haha.......in my case wine.....gee, I'm already a Nazi and now a heathen tonight.....this thread turned faster than a little girl's head at an exorcism


931 posted on 03/25/2005 11:22:29 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Antoninus

"Fortunately, we have a trump card up our sleeves---God Almighty. When courage is called for, He provides it assuming the vessel is willing."

Beautifully put.

Thank you.


932 posted on 03/25/2005 11:22:29 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: gogeo; Darkwolf377

The question becomes...WILL they do it? Call me cynical, but I won't hold my breath.


933 posted on 03/25/2005 11:22:29 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (Not everyone here is your FRiend, watch out for the "opinion shapers" (aka troll with an agenda))
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To: EternalVigilance

The pro-murder side of the Republican party is execrable.

Why should I continue to support a party that welcomes this evil?


934 posted on 03/25/2005 11:23:19 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: flaglady47

So you are cool with the state murdering helpless people?


935 posted on 03/25/2005 11:23:26 PM PST by jpsb
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To: kralcmot
no matter how much i disagree with this judge, with this court and those appellate courts, i believe that we must respect the Rule of Law.

Look, if Jeb defies the court on the grounds of Florida law, it is the Legislature, NOT the court, which will be the body that tries him on the issue. You know, checks and balances?

936 posted on 03/25/2005 11:24:09 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: timburton; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Again, pointing out your lack of intelligence in thought isn't an ad hominem attack when based upon a reasoned arguement, which you didn't do a damn thing to disprove. Telling you to shut up, isn't ad hominem. Again, you lose.

Nah, she will never lose, because she is a true American who has heart and integrity. She believes in what's right, and fighting for what's right.

You need to put your money where your big mouth is, and change things, so we don't have another Terri situation. Do you live in Florida? Do you go out and work for your party, to try to make sure the ones deserving of making these decisions are elected? Have you walked the streets, made the phone calls, and worked for Conservative officials to be elected?

Or are you just sitting there all comfy and cozy, making judgements?

I am very active in our local Republican party. I suggest you get off your kiester and do the same, so we can change things.

The liberal judges in FL have done everyting they can to seal Terri's fate.

I, for one, will work to see that a scenerio such as this doesn't happen in my state.

937 posted on 03/25/2005 11:24:16 PM PST by LisaMalia (Today is the first day...of the rest of our lives, hopefully Terri's as well.....)
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To: eddiebear

"Yes, it is tragic that a woman is getting railroaded by a runaway activist judge, but.."

Let's at least you the correct terminology, a woman is being starved to death, not railroaded.

Just like, 'we are only relieving her of 'nutrition and hydration' NO, they took away her 'food and water'.


938 posted on 03/25/2005 11:24:37 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and the rest can go to hell.)
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To: eddiebear
"Sending in state/ Federal troopers in would have set the conservative movement back 40 years

You mean back to when conservatives were conservative? Great let's do it.

939 posted on 03/25/2005 11:25:26 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Darkwolf377
He's not the president of a religion, he's the president of a nation with no official religion. Man, if we have to clear THAT up around here...

I would encourage you to study American history. This country's ENTIRE structure: executive, legislative, and judicial branches are built around scriptural principles.

America's entire core of jurisprudence is centered squarely on biblical law (study Blackstone's Commentary if you don't want to believe me).

The formation of a constitutional republic with different strengths in the House and Senate is also based upon biblical principles.

If I were a Muslim then I would have the opportunity to worship freely and also run for office - pretty amazing freedoms for a country based on a particular religion - but that's one of the great things about Christianity.
940 posted on 03/25/2005 11:25:34 PM PST by politicket
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