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Police 'Showdown' Averted ['Team of State Agents Were En Route to Seize Terri']
Miami Herald ^ | Sat, Mar. 26, 2005 | CAROL MARBIN MILLER

Posted on 03/25/2005 7:55:28 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Hours after a judge ordered that Terri Schiavo was not to be removed from her hospice, a team of state agents were en route to seize her and have her feeding tube reinserted -- but they stopped short when local police told them they would enforce the judge's order, The Herald has learned.

Agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement told police in Pinellas Park, the small town where Schiavo lies at Hospice Woodside, on Thursday that they were on the way to take her to a hospital to resume her feeding.

For a brief period, local police, who have officers at the hospice to keep protesters out, prepared for what sources called ``a showdown.''

In the end, the squad from the FDLE and the Department of Children & Families backed down, apparently concerned about confronting local police outside the hospice.

''We told them that unless they had the judge with them when they came, they were not going to get in,'' said a source with the local police.

''The FDLE called to say they were en route to the scene,'' said an official with the city police who requested anonymity. ``When the sheriff's department and our department told them they could not enforce their order, they backed off.''

The incident,known only to a few and related to The Herald by three different sources involved in Thursday's events, underscores the intense emotion and murky legal terrain that the Schiavo case has created. It also shows that agencies answering directly to Gov. Jeb Bush had planned to use a wrinkle in Florida law that would have allowed them to legally get around the judge's order. The exception in the law allows public agencies to freeze a judge's order whenever an agency appeals it.

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To: NorCalRepub

Oh! Bad move with the international law...Are you suggesting that if Terri's attorneys can prove a violation of international law then JB can act?


721 posted on 03/25/2005 10:29:01 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: Monterrosa-24

Well, I believe that anyone who prayed in favor of Life did something that cannot and will not be dismissed.


722 posted on 03/25/2005 10:29:04 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Daughter,

Again, you are presenting a red herring. The respect in your arguement is flawed. Us as posters are not in a position to be able to affect this case at all. Jeb is in a position that legally he has the right and morally he has the duty to do. We are not in his position of being able to act, therefore the respect of comparing us to Jeb is a logical fallacy.

For some stupid reason, you seem to ignore this little piece in critical thinking and decide to use a red herring in order to "boost your position", but instead you are proving that you have a huge lack of the understanding of thought and logic, especially when making an argument against someone.

So as the other day, I will again post a link to show you a list of logical fallacies. So I suggest that you actually read them and adhere to them, before you make red herrings about what we are doing.

We are immaterial, because we are unable to affect the situation.

Besides having the distance time issue, the major fallacy is the fact that you are acting like we could actually re-insert the tube. Now, Jeb by order of his power can get a doctor to re-insert her tube. So your analogy in trying to discredit us is only a logical fallacy.

So please shut up for the last time, you are a broken record repeating an argument that is false nor sound.

http://www.locksley.com/6696/logic.htm


723 posted on 03/25/2005 10:29:22 PM PST by timburton
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"We must obey God rather than men."

Amen!
724 posted on 03/25/2005 10:29:28 PM PST by politicket
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To: tomahawk
I believe that Judge Greer should be arrested for interference with law enforcement...

The problem with that, of course, is that he would have to be brought before a judge.

725 posted on 03/25/2005 10:30:06 PM PST by gogeo (Often wrong but seldom in doubt.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
If you really believed what you're saying, you would be at the hospice yourself. Why aren't you? Or are you afraid to break a vacant, immoral law?

Gotcha. That's your way of saying "I surrender."

If this was going on in my backyard, in my state, I would be at the hospice. As it is, it's up to the citizens of Florida to act now since the governor has basically abdicated his responsiblity to protect an innocent life.

Besides, I'm sure if I did fly 1200 miles to go down there and get arrested, you'd be cheering me on, right? Nah, you'd be cheering the cops on as they bashed my head in.
726 posted on 03/25/2005 10:30:48 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: NorCalRepub
", I"m sure they have to keep a running talley on the things they are for or against......which is this case is everything and nothing"

Great observation. The Dems have been MUTE on this Schiavo case. Agree or disagree, the Republicans have said "Here's my stance" while Dems have been timid souls standing back and seeing what happens. Now THERE is leadership!

727 posted on 03/25/2005 10:30:51 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (An agnostic against abortion and "assisted suicide" based on hearsay)
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To: gogeo

He'll be brought before a Judge, all right.


728 posted on 03/25/2005 10:31:08 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: dawn53

Thanks.


729 posted on 03/25/2005 10:31:28 PM PST by Texas Deb
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To: jpsb

correct......so alter it by voting or abolish it by voting....I'm not claiming illegal laws should be obeyed as much as I'm saying who is to judge......legality is usually pretty succinct, but morality......well, there certainly are basic givens, but who decides the morality of the laws?????.......YOU??????


730 posted on 03/25/2005 10:31:53 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: k2blader

Thanks, I did that but "The COST OF DISCIPLESHIP" would have had me (a healthy military type guy) do something more than pray.


731 posted on 03/25/2005 10:32:06 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (wo)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota
The cops are the betrayers of Christ. Don't anyone tell me it's their job. I know better.

Amen. These local cops are sons of the devil. I pray that Jesus will visit His wrath upon them and visit a curse upon them for the next ten generations.
732 posted on 03/25/2005 10:32:50 PM PST by farmer18th ("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
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To: Windcatcher
In the very short term, there is no reason why there can't be an immediate call for state laws to be restructured to always "err on the side of life". That can and should be our clarion call.

A state constitutional amendment in Florida would be the cleanest way to go.

733 posted on 03/25/2005 10:32:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: NorCalRepub
my solution.....is to practice "acceptance", pray on the matter, follow the laws of the land and change any existing laws we don't like......

Your solution is to do nothing. You have no moral values. Do you care about anything other then the silver lining your pocket?
734 posted on 03/25/2005 10:32:58 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Antoninus

Exactly. If a group of concerned citizens did try to do a "rush" on the hospice to take Terri some water, these same people who are jeering, "What are you doing about it?" would be screaming, "Look at those crazed fanatics, do they think they're above the law?"


735 posted on 03/25/2005 10:33:29 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: NJ_gent

"So police officers should kill other police officers to try and save this woman's life."

No, police officers need not shoot each other to save Terri. Just save her.


736 posted on 03/25/2005 10:33:39 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: DoughtyOne

bttt


737 posted on 03/25/2005 10:34:14 PM PST by lainde
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To: mjtobias

I don't think Jeb's actions were a ruse or a farce to appease voters. I think Jeb called the press conference thinking that he was going to be able to announce that Terri was en-route to the hospital and was receiving fluids. Unfortunately, someone tipped off Felos, Felos called the judge, and got an immediate restraining order against DFS. State cops were confronted by Greer's goons from the county Sheriff's office and they had to back down or risk the chance of many innocent bystanders around the hospice being killed. Jeb then tried to get the R/O withdrawn, so this could happen peacefully, but the courts all backed Greer. Jeb's hands were tied legally because Greer's restraining order was upheld by all the higher courts.


738 posted on 03/25/2005 10:34:43 PM PST by Flamenco Lady (Pray for a miracle for Terri and her family!)
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To: farmer18th

Let God's fire blaze against their evil, to be sure.


739 posted on 03/25/2005 10:34:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: timburton

How convenient for all of you. Only Jeb Bush is in the position to break the law to satisfy you. When it comes to the possiblity of any of you risking anything, you always look to your left and right - never in the mirror.

"Shut up" yourself.


740 posted on 03/25/2005 10:35:06 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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