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Police 'Showdown' Averted ['Team of State Agents Were En Route to Seize Terri']
Miami Herald ^ | Sat, Mar. 26, 2005 | CAROL MARBIN MILLER

Posted on 03/25/2005 7:55:28 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Hours after a judge ordered that Terri Schiavo was not to be removed from her hospice, a team of state agents were en route to seize her and have her feeding tube reinserted -- but they stopped short when local police told them they would enforce the judge's order, The Herald has learned.

Agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement told police in Pinellas Park, the small town where Schiavo lies at Hospice Woodside, on Thursday that they were on the way to take her to a hospital to resume her feeding.

For a brief period, local police, who have officers at the hospice to keep protesters out, prepared for what sources called ``a showdown.''

In the end, the squad from the FDLE and the Department of Children & Families backed down, apparently concerned about confronting local police outside the hospice.

''We told them that unless they had the judge with them when they came, they were not going to get in,'' said a source with the local police.

''The FDLE called to say they were en route to the scene,'' said an official with the city police who requested anonymity. ``When the sheriff's department and our department told them they could not enforce their order, they backed off.''

The incident,known only to a few and related to The Herald by three different sources involved in Thursday's events, underscores the intense emotion and murky legal terrain that the Schiavo case has created. It also shows that agencies answering directly to Gov. Jeb Bush had planned to use a wrinkle in Florida law that would have allowed them to legally get around the judge's order. The exception in the law allows public agencies to freeze a judge's order whenever an agency appeals it.

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To: HiTech RedNeck
GOD knows something YOU obviously do not...neither Bush brother can legally do what you want them to do.

Either we live in a nation of laws,ore we don't. You want a KING or a benevolent dictator, not a president. MOVE!

There are murders in this country every day.The president can't go running after them all to stop them. It is just NOT his job to do so,just as it is NOT within either job description got Fla. Governor, or President of the USA, to do what you yearn to be done.

But since you and the other poster I replied to truly believe that GOD is the author of everything,then HE is the one who is responsible for Terri now being starved to death.So stop blaming the Bushes.

701 posted on 03/25/2005 10:24:21 PM PST by nopardons
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To: KDD

"It's the entire Pinellas and Hillsbourgh Counties...2.8 million people...and not even one local Church shows up to speak up nationally in front of that hospice. Not one congregation."

You don't have to stand in front the hospice to take a stand against what is happening. You forget, or chose to ignore, that Judge Greer was essentially asked to withdraw his membership from a Baptist Church in that area because he could not deal with the Pastor of that church speaking out against his actions. So, you are inaccurate to say "not one church." I am certain that many churches of different denominations are appalled at what is taking place, but feel it is better to stay out of the fray. So, don't assume silence to mean approval (or to be honest - disapproval for that matter).

However, you do have my sympathy over two issues. I can understand how irritating it must seem to have the entire country focus on you especially on an issue that you are (whether right or wrong) tired of hearing about after 15 years. I also think it is wrong for anyone to paint the entire population of that area as "heathens". As a good friend of mine used to jokingly say, "All generalizations suck!"


702 posted on 03/25/2005 10:24:28 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: politicket
"You my FRiend are putting the power of decisions into MAN'S hands. It sounds like you believe that MAN decides when and if he wants to follow God, rather that GOD knowing who will accept His gift of salvation.

Therefore I endure all things for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. - 2 Timothy 2:10"

Who is the 'elect', set aside ones, you really really need to answer that question before you can understand what is being said.

You are forgetting who it is you are to be armed for, and it is not a war of flesh and blood, you are going to exhaust yourself and become scorpion bait.
703 posted on 03/25/2005 10:24:39 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: gogeo

you are right.......but we elect them and many judges so if there is any blame, maybe we should all look in the mirror instead of hurling invectives and casting stones


704 posted on 03/25/2005 10:25:06 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: ARCADIA

Sadly, some *will* remember it as "that time the wacko pro-life extremists enacted a coup on FR."


705 posted on 03/25/2005 10:25:09 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: NorCalRepub
huh????......so are you the one in charge of determining the morality or evilness of the laws....isn't that what the legislature and courts are for in the first case.....you are saying if you don't like a law, you can just disobey it.....I think Most Americans would not agree with you on that point....but of course I haven't polled them...

Oh, man...listen to yourself.

706 posted on 03/25/2005 10:25:26 PM PST by gogeo (Often wrong but seldom in doubt.)
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To: rwfromkansas
This is a horrible case. God be with the Schindlers. And may Michael feel in his soul the hurt he has caused.

I agree, Gov. Bush did all that he could, without the possibility of causing bloodshed at the hospice where Terri is being held captive.

Michael S. could have ended this by giving up his rights to Terri when he decided to move on, take a common law wife, and have two children with her.

I have researched Terri's case extensively, and know that he has for years been acting out of self-interest and vindictiveness.

I'm still praying for Terri and her Mom, Dad, and siblings.

As for Michael S., I think he has no conscience, and will go on with his life. I see him as a sociopath, no better than O.J. Simpson, Scott Peterson, and so many others of their ilk.

707 posted on 03/25/2005 10:25:35 PM PST by LisaMalia (Today is the first day...of the rest of our lives, hopefully Terri's as well.....)
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To: Antoninus

Our side is so easily scared away.


708 posted on 03/25/2005 10:25:37 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: Texas Deb

I doubt Congress will do anything to him. Though it might make some here feel good, politically I think it would be a colossal mistake. The MSM would make it look like Congress was being vindictive, lordly, overpowering, etc., and generally crucify them for it. IMHO the greater good is to pour massive money into getting this guy voted out in 2010 (when the acrimony will have died down and the libs won't be able to crucify us for it) and, in the shorter term, to use this as an example for getting Bush's judicial nominations in (read: nuclear option). In the very short term, there is no reason why there can't be an immediate call for state laws to be restructured to always "err on the side of life". That can and should be our clarion call.

I see Congress letting this one go for now, but this judge can forget about GOP support next time around. I see Bush moving onto SS reform just long enough for a news cycle and then dropping the hammer on judicial nominations (I'd guess come June). The really important thing is to make sure that the MSM can't use this whole episode to paint us as religious whack-jobs (and, to be blunt, some people aren't frelling helping in that regard). We're already taking a beating from the reporting (would someone please smack that moron who tried to rob the gun store? Do any other idiots out there want to do something stupid (violent) and make us look worse than we already do?)


709 posted on 03/25/2005 10:26:07 PM PST by Windcatcher
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To: NorCalRepub

All government must give account to God. That's in the Bible. God's not going to ask them how well they followed some evil earthly judge; He is going to ask them how well they followed His laws universal to mankind, such as thou shalt not murder.


710 posted on 03/25/2005 10:26:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: nopardons
Jeb Bush could do anything and everything these people wanted, and I know it would take no time at all for the bulk of them to be complaining about him again. This is a problem with our side. I've heard more complaining about the efforts of pro-life Republicans here than I have from the left. If I were Jeb Bush, I'd give up and tell them to get a Democrat to fix it.
711 posted on 03/25/2005 10:27:10 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: nopardons

"We must obey God rather than men."


712 posted on 03/25/2005 10:27:23 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Texas Deb

Here's an article on Greer.

He's a Republican, was just recently re-elected.

He's a Baptist, a member of a large Southern Baptist church in Clearwater. He was a deacon in the church, but evidently has had a falling out with the church (wonder why, end/sarcasm)

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/06/Tampabay/Quiet_judge_persists_.shtml


713 posted on 03/25/2005 10:27:40 PM PST by dawn53
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To: k2blader
"Sadly, some *will* remember it as "that time the wacko pro-life extremists enacted a coup on FR.""


lol, that is what the moderate nobles worried about their insurance premiums believe. Unfortunately they are so Biblically illiterate they can't point out where the wacko are wrong.
714 posted on 03/25/2005 10:28:07 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Antoninus

"Let's face it, in the battle between Good and Evil, Evil has the upper hand because Good won't cheat or lie and Evil will at every opportunity."

Excellent.

Good's tenets are abstraction such as: compassion, charity, forgiveness, love-thy-neighbor, prayer (especially for the enemy) and other convuluted intangibles.

You cannot fight the enemy through abstractions.


715 posted on 03/25/2005 10:28:25 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: Just mythoughts
Who is the 'elect', set aside ones, you really really need to answer that question before you can understand what is being said.

Scripture makes it very clear that the 'elect' are those called by God to His son Jesus Christ.

My point is that God does the calling. It is not mans decision away from God.
716 posted on 03/25/2005 10:28:39 PM PST by politicket
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
PTBOR WROTE: "My grandfather's next door neighbor is doing life without parole for killing her husband with insulin."

Since I'm sure he "would never have wanted to live like that," maybe he should have his food and water removed! We could sure free up some prison space and give them "their" wish to not have to "live like that"---you know, like with food and water?!!!

717 posted on 03/25/2005 10:28:44 PM PST by Concerned (My Motto: It's NEVER wrong to do what's RIGHT!!!)
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To: nopardons

God is the author of chances as well. If those chances are not used to honor Him, then God will judge and damn.


718 posted on 03/25/2005 10:28:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: jpsb

Where did you get that idea? Is it because I expect someone who is demanding something of Jeb Bush to expect the same of himself?


719 posted on 03/25/2005 10:28:48 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: Darkwolf377

who knows.......the core Dem principles are so general in nature like..." we are for the working man", whatever that means.......and "we run foreign policy like the UN"....and more pro choice blather.....they have so many special interests, I"m sure they have to keep a running talley on the things they are for or against......which is this case is everything and nothing


720 posted on 03/25/2005 10:29:00 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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