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NRA Leader Advocates Guns for Teachers
AP ^ | 3/25/05 | Arthur H. Rotstein

Posted on 03/25/2005 4:32:35 PM PST by Crackingham

All options should be considered to prevent rampages like the Minnesota school shooting that took 10 lives -- including making guns available to teachers, a top National Rifle Association leader said Friday.

"I'm not saying that that means every teacher should have a gun or not, but what I am saying is we need to look at all the options at what will truly protect the students," the NRA's first vice president, Sandra S. Froman, told The Associated Press.

Gun-control restrictions would not have prevented Jeff Weise, 16, from killing nine people and himself Monday at Red Lake High School near Bemidji, Minn., said Froman, an attorney expected next month to be elected president of the NRA, which claims 4 million members.

The presence of an unarmed guard at the school failed to stop the siege, she noted.

"No gun law, no policy that you could implement now or that was already implemented, I think, could possibly prevent someone so intent on destruction," she said. "I think everything's on the table as far as looking at what we need to do to make our schools safe for our students."

Froman said if it is the responsibility of teachers to protect students in a school, "then we as a society, we as a community have to provide a way for the teachers to do that."

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1 posted on 03/25/2005 4:32:35 PM PST by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

This is a 'common-sense' type law that's needed. Allowing teachers or at least some armed guards at schools.

Right now they're just a huge target. Huge.. I'm amazing more atrocities haven't happened.. yet.


2 posted on 03/25/2005 4:34:04 PM PST by G32
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To: Crackingham

Wanna bet the NEA doesn't agree?


3 posted on 03/25/2005 4:34:47 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Crackingham; Joe Brower
I think the Red Lake killer wandered around the school for about 45 minutes before police arrived. On confronting him, he ducked into a classroom and killed himself.

In Pearl Mississippi, a teacher stopped a rampage short. Another rampage was stopped by armed students in NC.

4 posted on 03/25/2005 4:37:54 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Crackingham
Ban SSRI's

B'shem Y'shua
chuck

5 posted on 03/25/2005 4:37:56 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: Crackingham

It would certainly make the little darlins' think twice about misbehavin'.


6 posted on 03/25/2005 4:38:58 PM PST by ContraryMary
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To: Crackingham

With the potential for terror attacks (as well as nutcase kids with weapons) I would like to see every school, mall, church, or temple with a handful (volunteers) of weapons qualified personnel. The guns should be quickly obtainable and not well publicized. (The terrorists or students should not know who might have the training.) I believe this has been the practice in Israel and would be a good policy here as well. In this respect laws making schools "gun free zones" should not apply to these members of the staff who volunteer to take additional traning and show a willingness to take the necessary risk to protect themselves and others.


7 posted on 03/25/2005 4:39:50 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: Dog Gone
Wanna bet the NEA doesn't agree?

"Oh, oh! They'd just be taken away from the teachers or guards!" What else, let me see... "Teachers are nurturing caregivers, not armed killers!" What else are they going to throw against the wall?

Fact of the matter is, I'm fully behind giving teachers the statutory option to carry concealed in the "line of duty."

If they want to carry concealed while en route to or from the school, then they can get a Concealed Pistols License. If they want to carry openly while en route, that's already permitted by state law but...

In the state of Michigan where I live, firearms are prohibited from school grounds except when borne by a sworn Law Enforcement Officer (LEO) or school district security guard, or by a parent with a CPL while that parent is in their vehicle. This needs to change.

8 posted on 03/25/2005 4:42:21 PM PST by Kretek
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To: Travis McGee
In Pearl Mississippi, a teacher stopped a rampage short. Another rampage was stopped by armed students in NC.

In Grundy, VA, a rampage at a law school was ended by two students who ran to retrieve their firearms from their vehicles.

Was there another one in North Carolina I don't remember?

10 posted on 03/25/2005 4:44:26 PM PST by Kretek
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To: smyrna1967
horrible idea

Why do you think so?

11 posted on 03/25/2005 4:45:05 PM PST by Kretek
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To: smyrna1967

Why?


12 posted on 03/25/2005 4:45:13 PM PST by G32
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To: Kretek

I think you have their intial responses to this absolutely nailed.


13 posted on 03/25/2005 4:46:09 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Kretek
"Why do you think so?"

Well, probably because she/he/it is a newbie liberal troll.

15 posted on 03/25/2005 4:47:51 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Kretek

It's the same here in Arizona. You can't be near a school while you're armed. But if it works in Israel, it would work here.

We arm pilots, why not school teachers? Maybe that's the argument we should make. The pilots were the foot in the door. Now that they're working out just fine, we should expand that protection to other areas.

I'll bet this idea doesn't make it to the MSM, since it comes from the NRA.


16 posted on 03/25/2005 4:49:12 PM PST by Tarantulas
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To: Crackingham; Dog Gone; Dan from Michigan

Every vice principal should be deputized. Who can possibly argue with doing that much?!

As law enforcement officers, those vice principals then have the *option* to pack heat at schools.

Once this policy is implemented, then we go for more (e.g. all principals should be deputized, then all coaches, etc.).

Baby steps.

17 posted on 03/25/2005 4:49:31 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Crackingham
This will, naturally, be misrepresented as "the NRA wants to make our schools into armed camps!" but in fact, allowing it means nothing much will actually change. Most teachers are neither experienced with firearms nor desire to become so.

But some are. And the possibility that a small percentage of teachers have a lockbox somewhere out of sight but available is a subtle but effective deterrent. As most of the states with concealed carry laws found out - it isn't the presence of firearms, but the potential of presence, that acts on the criminal mind.

18 posted on 03/25/2005 4:49:39 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Kretek
"In the state of Michigan where I live, firearms are prohibited from school grounds except when borne by a sworn Law Enforcement Officer (LEO) or school district security guard, or by a parent with a CPL while that parent is in their vehicle. This needs to change."

As far as I'm concerned, ANY teacher or other adult employee of any school should be allowed to carry concealed (i.e. "gun-free school zones" are B.S.), and all state laws should be made to allow so. However, in the interim, some smart sheriff or police chief can simply deputize the teachers who want to carry.

19 posted on 03/25/2005 4:50:18 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Crackingham
Don't students have Second Amendment rights?

Not even the "law-abiding" students? ;-)

20 posted on 03/25/2005 4:52:23 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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