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Schindlers' Options Dwindle to Hearing Tonight with Federal Judge (Motion DENIED)
AP ^ | March 24, 2005

Posted on 03/24/2005 4:45:17 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

A federal court hearing has started in one of the last effort attempts by Terri Schiavo's parents to restore their daughter's feeding tube.

But the judge already has turned down the parents once. Bob and Mary Schindler are asking for an emergency order to reinsert the feeding tube in the brain-damaged woman.

The hearing in Tampa is before U.S. District Judge James Whittemore. He turned the Schindlers down once, as did a federal appeals court and the Supreme Court. A state judge, a state appeals court and the Florida Supreme Court also have all come down on the side of the husband, who wants to let his wife die after 15 years in what some doctors call a vegetative state.

The latest defeat for the Schindlers was today when a state judge said he won't go along with Governor Jeb Bush's request to order the feeding tube reinserted. The governor had said that new allegations of abuse of Terri Schiavo need to be investigated. The governor also tried to challenged the diagnosis that Terri Schiavo is in a persistent vegetative state.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: florida; righttolife; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; whittemore
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To: Cboldt

And to think he can kill at the snap of the fingers.


521 posted on 03/24/2005 7:34:35 PM PST by freecopper01
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To: PsyOps
Would you watch your daughter being murdered?

No

522 posted on 03/24/2005 7:34:39 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: cajungirl
I was kind of hoping Jessee Jackson and Al Sharpton would show up in Fla with their rent=a-mobs. Jessee is on Terri's side.
Wouldn't that complicate things.

I'd just as soon they not show up. I personally think both of them are into whatever they do for self-glorification.

This is a somber and serious thing going on. It merits deep though and reflection, operation from knowledge, conviction and strength. Circus distractions in that context are not a good thing, IMO.

523 posted on 03/24/2005 7:34:40 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: ClancyJ

You're right. Considering your previous level of discourse, I really don't care much about what you have to say.


524 posted on 03/24/2005 7:35:19 PM PST by Peach
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To: Peach
If you haven't noticed a take over of the forum by the radical right

I am hoping that's a joke.

525 posted on 03/24/2005 7:35:40 PM PST by riri
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To: ClancyJ

Thanks. You articulated my feelings exactly.


526 posted on 03/24/2005 7:36:07 PM PST by Sunshadow
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To: Cboldt
If the label is being used as a weapon, which it is, then it's relevant whether Greer, a judge assigned to the Probate Division, was a proper judge to hear this case.

Would you agree with that?

I don't see a "Guardian Division" in the Florida system. Unless my research was faulty, there isn't a category of judges called "Guardian judge." If you have information that corrects that, I'd happily receive it.

So unless I find further information that Greer wasn't a proper judge to hear this case, I have to conclude that the label put upon him is perhaps accurate in administrative terms only and that the implication that he is a judge acting out of jurisdiction or expertise is spin.

527 posted on 03/24/2005 7:36:14 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: snarkytart

oH, MY GOSH.

I thought they were still in there, talking.

Is it over already??


528 posted on 03/24/2005 7:36:56 PM PST by freecopper01
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To: freecopper01
I can tell you for sure, that there are already people I will speak with on a need-to basis only, because what they think of life came out during this issue. I completely understand. Have decided exactly the same thing about many people I know. But there have been others who surprised me pleasantly. Not many, but still.
529 posted on 03/24/2005 7:37:12 PM PST by katherineisgreat
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To: discostu
The Federal Constitution gives the Legislature precedence over the Judiciary, but I don't know about the Executive vs. Judiciary. The Florida Constitution may be different, anyway.

But power comes from the barrel of a gun, as Mao sid, and the Judiciary have no guns. Their authority comes only from the respect we give them.

530 posted on 03/24/2005 7:37:20 PM PST by expatpat
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To: PsyOps
Would you watch your daughter being murdered?

Well, according to many posters here, you are expected to sacrifice your daughter's life to the hallowed "Rule Of Law" of judges. And if you object you are a nutcase, destroyer of the Republic, etc. And for any other politician to attempt to override the judge's murderous order is apparently a worse crime than your daughter's murder itself.

531 posted on 03/24/2005 7:37:25 PM PST by VinceJS
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To: tomahawk

I agree, the judiciary is totally out of control. Ignoring a Congressional subpoena is just one egregious example that should be punished severely.

Problem is, Frist and the other 'leaders' on our side have gone totally spineless on this. Just Monday, he was making some bold statements about not letting Greer get away with ignoring the subpoena. And, 4 days later..Greer has indeed gotten away with exactly this.

Frist's Presidential ambitions will be DONE, KAPUT, FINITO after this. If he can't stand up to one peon circuit court judge, how can he expect to convince us that he can lead the free world and stand up to the likes of Vladimir Putin?

Frist better get his act together and pull the "nuke" trigger on the upcoming judiciary battles, or he is absolutely a non-factor in this Congres.


532 posted on 03/24/2005 7:37:50 PM PST by jstolzen (All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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To: PhiKapMom

They're saying on Fox it's not a bomb threat, but a report of a suspicious package. A backpack, I think. Let's hope it's something totally benign. The media was loving the idea of a rightwing nut planting a bomb at the court, of course. Even Greta was practically salivating. She seemed a little disappointed when they changed the story to a suspicious package.


533 posted on 03/24/2005 7:39:15 PM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: freecopper01; cajungirl
Sorry I didn't realize my link didn't show up.

It really is from a book he wrote but I got it from this site.

Excerpts from Felo's Book

Do a Google and just put in George Felos book and see all the links you come up with.

534 posted on 03/24/2005 7:39:16 PM PST by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Cboldt

If Jesse Jackson is on our side, I am seriously going to have to start reconsidering my position.


535 posted on 03/24/2005 7:39:26 PM PST by pkp1184
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To: tomahawk; Howlin; Peach; Long Cut; malakhi; zarf; .38sw; Neets; cajungirl; mhking
Another doozy:

By murdering the disabled, we now resemble Nazi Germany in yet another fashion.

Soon, eugenics and designer children (only blonde haired blue eyed need apply) will be here, Hitler's master race, about 100 years after he tried it.

King, you better hide. But don't come to my house; I'm a green-eyed, gray-haired Pole, so they'll come for me first.

536 posted on 03/24/2005 7:39:35 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: northernlightsII
I just had a problem with him being so darn persistant about murder charges when Terri's sister and brother looked so darn shell-shocked..trying to wrap their heads around seeing their sister starving to death.

I mean have a daman heart for cripes sake Colmes!( I know--it's asking for too much)

537 posted on 03/24/2005 7:39:36 PM PST by arbee4bush (Then, in a clattering crescendo of keystrokes, the issue exploded in cyberspace.)
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To: Cboldt

Jessee is influential, very influential. For some he is like a minister. It would help if he came.

There is a circus going on anyway with tv, protestors, the news going on and on.

Jessee would help, I would like him there. Besides I think khe does believe this is wrong.


538 posted on 03/24/2005 7:39:39 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: PhiKapMom

lol

Tell him to pull for my Pokes! I cheered for Sooners this year.....twice! ;)


539 posted on 03/24/2005 7:40:15 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: Dog Gone
So unless I find further information that Greer wasn't a proper judge to hear this case, I have to conclude that the label put upon him is perhaps accurate in administrative terms only and that the implication that he is a judge acting out of jurisdiction or expertise is spin.

Ahh, I understand much better now. The issue was a label-fixation thing! Well, I'm pretty sure Greer's court was the proper venue for the case. I'm surprised anybody would raise or even spend time disucssing that issue at this point in the proceedings. I thought the discussion was more along the lines of how big and imporant he was, e.g. a fun (but totally irrelevant) "Big state judge" vs "Little county judge" sort of thing.

540 posted on 03/24/2005 7:40:17 PM PST by Cboldt
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